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Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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Re: Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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We really are trying our best to make Terminator reality aren't we?

Maybe drones will make human soldiers unacceptable in the future.

They will certainly make human soldiers unviable. (I draw mostly dystopian conclusions from that prediction.)

Re: Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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Someone here said "[Russian] tactical units", "smoke grenades". They must be joking.

A drone like this is defending against 2-3 50-year-olds without military experience wading through a bombed out tree-line into almost certain death, because there are literal firing squads waiting if they don't. With a huge round like 12.7, all you have to do is fire pot shots in the general vicinity while drone pilots do the rest. Also, these can be life-savers for an outpost when weather conditions ground all drones.

This is a fluff piece, but these machines might become very real very soon. They're already used for resupply and dropping mines. We have plenty of videos of that from both sides. A few months ago we had a video of one of these taking out an infantry carrier. This is not vaporware. It's a bad approach at worst, but I wouldn't be surprised if this grows exponentially for many years to come.

Re: Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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This smells more like military propagand, i.e., bullshit. There is no way this is honest or real, i.e., it somehow fought off a tactical unit trying to take the frontline that this drone was holding? Or was it just parked in some area where there was no tactical point of even taking the territory? Just by virtue of its nature, a single drone and/or a well placed dumb grenade, not even to mention likely a smoke grenad…

Yes propaganda and bullshit, but by way of exaggeration and puffery, not lying. I wouldn't expect even a lightly informed mid-wit to think that this murderbot held the ground by itself; and I don't think the author expects that either. Thus something else is probably going on. To wit - puffery.

The murderbot is remotely operated, so it did not held the ground by itself, though it is claimed that it might be able to do some things autonomously.

Re: Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe drones will make human soldiers unacceptable in the future.

They will certainly make human soldiers unviable. (I draw mostly dystopian conclusions from that prediction.)

Or it will just lead to lopsided massacres like the maxim gun did.

Re: Ukrainian drone holds position for 6 weeks

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This smells more like military propagand, i.e., bullshit. There is no way this is honest or real, i.e., it somehow fought off a tactical unit trying to take the frontline that this drone was holding? Or was it just parked in some area where there was no tactical point of even taking the territory? Just by virtue of its nature, a single drone and/or a well placed dumb grenade, not even to mention likely a smoke grenad…

Perhaps it would be helpful to view the claims of this article through a cost/benefit analysis?

Clearly if the opponent had wanted to defeat this vehicle and take this ground, they could have.

That said, it seems likely that this vehicle substantially increased the expected cost of taking this ground, and it did so at very little cost/risk to the defenders.

This sort of device dramatically changes the equation of conflict. It seems this article does a pretty good (though unverified) job of making that case.

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