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Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by kleiba »

In Germany, where Lidl is originally from, you can already order them online in their store. This is a variety for your balcony: https://www.lidl.de/p/vale-gmbh-balkonkraftwerk-ecoflow-860-...

Product Features:

- Name: VALE MiniPV 880-EF8N

- Control: Free App

- Communication: WiFi 2.4 GHz

- Performance: max. 800 W

- Tension: approx. 230 V

- Frequency: 50 Hz

- Power supply: Solar inputs: up to 60 V, mains current 230 V

- Protection rating: IP67

- Material: Solar modules: glass and aluminium frame

- Inverter: Cast aluminium

- Dimensions: approx. L 172.2 x W 113.4 x H 3 cm (per solar module) approx. L 25,3 x W 22.2 x H 3.5 cm (inverter)

- Weight: approx. 56 kg

- Scope of delivery: 2 x Premium solar panels, each 440WP, Black, Bifazial; 1 x Premium inverter 800 Watt with WiFi; 1 x connection cable (5 m), safety plug; Quick start guide

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by jacknews »

leonidasrup wrote: post #16
jstsch wrote: post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

Fewer and fewer, as the whole world electrifies.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by tbrownaw »

progbits wrote: post #4
lnsru wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which energy bill? Monthly or yearly?

Beautiful thing about percentages...

Well, "yearly", "monthly, in the summer", and "monthly, in the winter" could plausibly all be different numbers.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by Fokamul »

leonidasrup wrote: post #16
jstsch wrote: post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

That's 3rd world country problem, British people (with salary in top places of Europe) must save money!

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by guntars »

leonidasrup wrote: post #16
jstsch wrote: post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

If you are curious about it, why don’t you go and find the answer and then let us know too, no?

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by raphaelj »

gib444 wrote: post #14
raphaelj wrote: post #10

We legalized these in Belgium last year. I bought a 1600Wc + 1.9KWh kit (Ecoflow Stream) for +/- 1300€ last summer. It took us about 2h to install (we had to setup a new plug outside), and I already saved 200€+ since July. I am expecting to save about 350€ per year. Also, as u/jstch said, it's extremely fun to setup and generate your own power!

A 3.7 year ROI would be incredible (and fairly uncommon AIUI) South facing?

House is facing South, but I'm laying them flat on the floor for economic and aesthetic reasons, with some 3D printed brick-based ballast [1].

Buying supports for PV is actually less economical than buying additional PV panels.

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[1] https://imgur.com/a/tDPevmM

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by _aavaa_ »

leonidasrup wrote: post #16
jstsch wrote: post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

Less than it takes to manufacture and transports the barrels of oils it replaces.

Re: Solar panels at Lidl? Plug-in versions set to appear in shops

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Post by muskstinks »

leonidasrup wrote: post #16
jstsch wrote: post #5

Every installed PV-panel is a dozen barrels of oil (eq.) less CO2 in the atmosphere. Plus, so much fun to generate your own power! Can highly recommend it, even starting small. It's addictive though. Living in the center of the city (The Hague, NL), with a home battery, I'm now 100% self-sufficient electrically for 10 months of the year.

How many barrels of oil (eq.) are required to manufacture and transport the PV panel?

Its estimated that a PV panel is co2 neutral aver 2 years.

And the great thing is: this is only if the panel was produced with fossil fuels. So due to increase in green energy everywere, this number goes down too and a PV can easily be used for 15 years and after. After that it might just be more economicly to reinvest in a new set of PV panels while the old ones can be sold and used somewere else.

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