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OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

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Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#21
I can't help but think building an "everything" app is so.. both unbelievably ambitious, and a folly. I am not personally convinced that people want all the things that this super app purports to do.

I am from a generation that still sits behind a desktop computer when making "big purchases." I can't even buy a flight on my phone. I am so much less likely to want to have an AI agent do that for me.

Then the idea that daily consumption of these products will drive people to use them more at work... I have a very different life outside of work. My use of AI outside of work is exceedingly different to what I use it for at work.

I sometimes feel wildly out of touch. But sometimes I view this as the VR moment. To me there are some things that I think may always be preferable to do outside of that ecosystem. And for me, a lot of tasks that 'agents' enable are small enough or important enough that I want to do them myself.

I don't think I'll ever be comfortable allowing an agent to call me a taxi, or order food on my behalf. Because the convenience of asking for food isn't worth the chance it'll mess up, and opening an app and looking at a menu is simpler.

I also think we're coming to a moment where we can start identifying the markers of AI generated content on sight. And I think there's a growing animosity to it. I might be comfortable asking AI something, but when I am looking for or searching for other content, seeing AI content markers make me angry at this point.

To finish, I do just sort of straight up hate the idea that we're comparing this moment to the invention of electricity. It's on the face of it absurd.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#22
> Within a year of launching ChatGPT, we reached $1B in revenue. By the end of 2024 we were generating $1B per quarter. We are now generating $2B in revenue per month.

They raised $122B.

122 / 12*2 = 5 years to get your money back (I simplify, I know revenue profit)

They are so big that almost no one can afford to acquire them. It is similar as someone would like to acquire MSFT or AAPL.

WCGW?

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#23
> The broad consumer reach of ChatGPT creates a powerful distribution channel into the workplace

They mention this line in different forms a couple of times in the article. It’s clear they’re pretty rattled about Anthropic’s momentum in enterprise, I wonder how confident they really are in this rationale.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#25

This has to be just an extension of their previous raise, right? This was a month ago: https://openai.com/index/scaling-ai-for-everyone/

Maybe? Previous valuation is $730B + $122B raised in this announcement = $852B valuation in this announcement (no actual increase in valuation)

Previous was $730B pre money. This one is $852B post money. So yeah it's the same one. Good catch.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#28
This announcement completes the betrayal of their founding principles.

"Our goal is to advance digital intelligence in the way that is most likely to benefit humanity as a whole, unconstrained by a need to generate financial return."

  - Not advancing digital intelligence
  - While locking people into a superapp
  - Because they are further constrained to generating financial returns

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#29
post #7

I'm old enough to remember when companies worth $1 billion were called "unicorns." Now we have a company raising 122 times that? Valued at nearly 1000 times that...? At least they're throwing consumers a bone via the ARK deal. It's crazy how little AI exposure is available to anyone who isn't already wealthy and/or connected.

> At least they're throwing consumers a bone via the ARK deal. It's crazy how little AI exposure is available to anyone who isn't already wealthy and/or connected.

It is deliberate. Period.

It's always been known that you make money in the private markets and pre-IPO companies and retail is the final exit for insiders and early investors.

Retail is not allowed to be early into these companies (Because that would ruin the point of being an insider) and this "exposure" has to be at the near top.

Re: OpenAI closes funding round at an $852B valuation

#30
They have to focus on the distant future (where they are frankly unlikely to exist) because they are falling further and further behind in the immediate future.

Their latest desperate bid for relevance is a plugin for Claude Code that uses Codex as a second opinion. Please clap.

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