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Source?
I've seen this going around on social media but not on reputable news sites. Coincidentally, the SK Hynix US IPO has been announced: https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/sk-hynix-files-co...
Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
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Re: Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
#22Didn't OpenAI cancel a bunch of memory orders? Seems premature to announce this as there soon will be a glut of memory in the market.
I think that is misinformation caused by circular logic. DDR prices stopped risking, simply because supply reached equilibrium vs demand and willingness of customers to overpay. The Micron stock price also had minor correction. Suddenly internet is full of articles how it is all caused by TurboQuant release or OpenAI giving up on its huge wafer orders. Looks very similar like attempts to explain random crypto price c…
What happens if they decide to dump all the stock they don't actually need anymore?
Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable?
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#23Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that is misinformation caused by circular logic. DDR prices stopped risking, simply because supply reached equilibrium vs demand and willingness of customers to overpay. The Micron stock price also had minor correction. Suddenly internet is full of articles how it is all caused by TurboQuant release or OpenAI giving up on its huge wafer orders. Looks very similar like attempts to explain random crypto price c…
Am I wrong that essentially what OpenAI tried to do is to short squeeze the memory market? What happens if they decide to dump all the stock they don't actually need anymore? Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable?
- supposedly buying for their own use, rather than reselling
- bought as forward, rather than spot: much of what they've ""bought"" is a commitment to buy memory that has not yet been manufactured
> Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable?
They've seen that coming, this is why there isn't a massive expansion to meet the demand rise and instead they're letting "demand destruction" happen. A decision vindicated by the war, as well.
Re: Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
#24I feel like all these hardware shortages will supercharge 2nd hand electronics and their refurbishing from repair specialists.
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#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
Am I wrong that essentially what OpenAI tried to do is to short squeeze the memory market? What happens if they decide to dump all the stock they don't actually need anymore? Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable?
The term I would use is "corner", as in "silver" and "onions". But there's a couple of distinctions: - supposedly buying for their own use, rather than reselling - bought as forward, rather than spot: much of what they've ""bought"" is a commitment to buy memory that has not yet been manufactured > Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable…
Do we know what they're using it for? I mean not reselling would imply the chips go on some OpenAI specific proprietary hardware directly, rather than it being sold back to OEMs to buy more GPUs or other off the shelf accelerators.
> They've seen that coming, this is why there isn't a massive expansion to meet the demand rise and instead they're letting "demand destruction" happen. A decision vindicated by the war, as well.
If you're a memory company, this sounds like making the best of a bad situation. not making more stuff despite demand far outstripping supply, just to prepare for the potential oversupply your customer can cause because they can walk back on their massive order.
Re: Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
#26I feel like all these hardware shortages will supercharge 2nd hand electronics and their refurbishing from repair specialists.
Re: Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
#27Didn't OpenAI cancel a bunch of memory orders? Seems premature to announce this as there soon will be a glut of memory in the market.
And there is another incoming tidal-wave of compute demand from all the vibe-coded apps that everybody is making now.
This will create a CPU shortage too.
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#28The AI corporations owe us money. I fail to see why we all have to pay more due to these greedy companies - they should pay us compensation money for driving up the prices here. In particular the US government is helping drive these prices up as well - not just due to AI situation, but also due to destroying part of the energy supply lines via its bombing of Iran as well as stock market manipulation. A mafia is pilla…
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#29Re: Sony halts memory card shipments due to NAND shortage
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think that is misinformation caused by circular logic. DDR prices stopped risking, simply because supply reached equilibrium vs demand and willingness of customers to overpay. The Micron stock price also had minor correction. Suddenly internet is full of articles how it is all caused by TurboQuant release or OpenAI giving up on its huge wafer orders. Looks very similar like attempts to explain random crypto price c…
Am I wrong that essentially what OpenAI tried to do is to short squeeze the memory market? What happens if they decide to dump all the stock they don't actually need anymore? Will half the memory industry run into the ground because of the oversupply means their current production is unsellable?