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A Message from the Ruby Central Board

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Re: A Message from the Ruby Central Board

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Not a rubyist so just curious on the background and if this is the “good” or the “bad” side in the spat? What’s the other side and what has been the broader community impact?

Shopify and/or its technical leadership worked its connections to oust a Rubygems maintainer they saw as a threat to Ruby projects Shopify has invested in. This was especially provocative because it involved Ruby Central asserting control over Rubygems, which it does not own. It was (by credible accounts) a "preemptive strike" on this maintainer, and thus was not communicated to other RG maintainers, who were underst…

That’s what it looks like to me, but I haven’t yet seen a good explanation of their motive. Why would the development of `rv` be such a threat to them?

I know specific individuals hate Andre and have had beef with him for years, but it’s hard to see what might have motivated Shopify and specifically Ufuk Kayserilioglu to carry this out.

Re: A Message from the Ruby Central Board

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Colorful is an odd way to spell "vocally bigoted".

I get downvoted here when I call him a racist.

Me too, and because of that I feel it's even more important to use language like racist, white nationalist, and fascist when describing him and his ilk, because that's what they are. Softening the language only leads to those beliefs becoming more normalized than they already are.

Re: A Message from the Ruby Central Board

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post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Shopify and/or its technical leadership worked its connections to oust a Rubygems maintainer they saw as a threat to Ruby projects Shopify has invested in. This was especially provocative because it involved Ruby Central asserting control over Rubygems, which it does not own. It was (by credible accounts) a "preemptive strike" on this maintainer, and thus was not communicated to other RG maintainers, who were underst…

That’s what it looks like to me, but I haven’t yet seen a good explanation of their motive. Why would the development of `rv` be such a threat to them? I know specific individuals hate Andre and have had beef with him for years, but it’s hard to see what might have motivated Shopify and specifically Ufuk Kayserilioglu to carry this out.

> Why would the development of `rv` be such a threat to them?

Well, package managers and language bundlers/runtimes are the hottest new luxury item for big tech - maybe they're worried rv gets bought in the same way that Anthropic bought bun, and OpenAI bought uv (Astral). Though at the time, none of that had happened yet.

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