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You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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Everybody hates tech. Everybody hates tech billionaires. Nobody wants their bullshit. Yes… kind of. I am old and always have been, so naturally I don’t like things I believe children falsely claim they cannot live without. Social media comes to mind.

I wonder if she appreciates the irony of posting that on a website lol

Big tech Arpanet and CERN are full of it!

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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Too many disparate thoughts in this writing but i admire the sentiment. VR was fraught with problems from the get go and even if we imagine a perfect technology, its a solution looking for a problem at best. I don’t know if that is the same necessarily for AI, but I can see futures where it ends up in doom and gloom.

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I wonder if she appreciates the irony of posting that on a website lol

i can’t believe i’m seeing an “yet you participate in society. curious!” reply in the wild we both know there is an obvious difference between “using Ghost to share a hypertext article” tech and “the metaverse and palantir” Tech

> an obvious difference between “using Ghost to share a hypertext article”

This is a free tier post on a paid subscription Substack that she charges $6/month for. She's posting this content to drum up an audience who will pay monthly for more of it.

You don't see the irony of the anti-tech blogger trying to cash in on tech hype using the most hyped paid blogging platform? She's not "using Ghost to share a hypertext article"

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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This is a lot of words mixed with ragebait to try to argue that AI is a fad that will go away. EDIT: This substack is non-stop grievances about AI posted multiple times per week. There's an audience of people who want to be as angry as possible about AI and this Substack is here to sell you subscriptions to that with gems like this designed to make you bristle with anger at the enemy > They are trained on racism, mis…

i dont think its crazy to expect a big contraction in AI hype and funding. I dont understand how they will all be profitable when you can run a model on your own computer for free that will do 98% of what you need.

I agree with you on most parts, but first, not everyone can actually run a model on your own computer that will do 98% of what you need - for most people it's rather around 40% of what you need, depending on the exact model and method of usage; and second, there's still these 2% remaining. And don't forget that not everyone (I mean, not every casual user) can do local inference just due to the lack of technical skills.

And by the way, who will produce this "model that you can run on your own computer"? Although, to be honest, right now in most cases that's not Meta or OpenAI anyway, even though they have some (outdated) open-weight models.

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post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

She says something more structural than that: there's a pattern, sold by the same people, with the same contempt to social consequences and democratic rules: GenAI, multiverse, NFTs, cryptos; what else next? Incidentally, each "wave" justifies massive investment in the same technology: GPUs, for transformations that do not materialise _at scale_. That raises the questions: why? Who captures the value? Who bears the c…

I don’t think the “GPU bubble” will burst, because linear algebra is widely applicable. It’s no particular mystery that GPUs have found universal applications. I feel sympathetic towards your first paragraph, but there is no conspiracy behind the success of GPUs.

I don't mean burst like that (neither a conspiracy), rather a striking coincidence: there are huge applications for GPUs, true.

But the inflation of expectations and investments in them because of GenAI, when this inflation bursts may impact everything and everyone.

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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The argument seems to be that Metaverse was a flop and FB did bad stuff, therefore AI will be a flop. That's certainly ... words.

The argument is that Metaverse, as presented by its billionaire promoters as a paradigm shift, even though the public hated that vision , was a flop, therefore AI as presented by its billionaire promoters as a paradigm shift will be a flop, because the public hates that vision .

That’s fine but it’s about perception, argument and sentiment. It’s not about the actual technology, which has the final say.

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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post #5

This is a lot of words mixed with ragebait to try to argue that AI is a fad that will go away. EDIT: This substack is non-stop grievances about AI posted multiple times per week. There's an audience of people who want to be as angry as possible about AI and this Substack is here to sell you subscriptions to that with gems like this designed to make you bristle with anger at the enemy > They are trained on racism, mis…

i dont think its crazy to expect a big contraction in AI hype and funding. I dont understand how they will all be profitable when you can run a model on your own computer for free that will do 98% of what you need.

> I dont understand how they will all be profitable when you can run a model on your own computer for free that will do 98% of what you need.

For the same reason how movie companies are reaping record profits from streaming services - convenience and fearmongering.

"You wouldn't download an AI, would you?!" or "Think of children and elderly!" or satanism, or billions of other tricks they already employ to keep you docile.

Also, majority of people do not have hardware to run models that compete with LLM vendors, at this point I'm pretty sure majority of people don't even own a PC anymore.

Re: You Do Not, in Fact, Have to Hand It to Them

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

i dont think its crazy to expect a big contraction in AI hype and funding. I dont understand how they will all be profitable when you can run a model on your own computer for free that will do 98% of what you need.

> I dont understand how they will all be profitable when you can run a model on your own computer for free that will do 98% of what you need. For the same reason how movie companies are reaping record profits from streaming services - convenience and fearmongering. "You wouldn't download an AI, would you?!" or "Think of children and elderly!" or satanism, or billions of other tricks they already employ to keep you do…

> satanism

I haven't seen this one in the wild (while seeing others) LOL. How does this even work? I mean, like... "if you download the film/LLM you will summon a demon"? I honestly can't understand : )

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