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Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#21

Where is data stored? Bluesky? My PDS? Your PDS, for free?

Hi, I've just added an FAQ entry about this: https://colibri.social/faq#where-is-my-data-stored

Also, feel free to DM me (@colibri.social) on Bluesky if you want to migrate to the Colibri PDS! We do host one ourselves.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#22

Thanks for building this, UX is nice and should encourage people to switch from Discord. Bsky only is a bit disappointing as it is still heavily centralized. I would love to see a system like this that can also set up channels over Nostr and the Fediverse. Fragmentation is starting to become an issue with decentralized and federated social.

We've taken a look at co-supporting ActivityPub as well actually! And yeah, the fragmentation is an issue. But I honestly think we might see at lease some level of interop between these fragments in the coming years, even if it's just some parts of the protocols and specs going in the same direction.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#23

Where is data stored? Bluesky? My PDS? Your PDS, for free?

Hi, I've just added an FAQ entry about this: https://colibri.social/faq#where-is-my-data-stored Also, feel free to DM me (@colibri.social) on Bluesky if you want to migrate to the Colibri PDS! We do host one ourselves.

Only my own messages are in my PDS? Or the entire chat?

How is the chat displayed if messages are scattered among multiple PDSes?

What about the community metadata, where is it stored?

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#24
post #9

Please consider adding screenshots of the UI that provide an idea of what the experience will be like without having to log in using Bluesky or other credentials.

Done! Thanks for the suggestion, that's a good idea.

Thanks for the quick fix :) Nice to see more Discord alternatives these days.

A few other landing page issues if you feel like addressing them:

- Attempting to navigate with the Tab key results in tab order following nav elements once, where focus indicators aren't visible, and then the same elements get iterated over again but this time focus indicators are visible.

- Tab order doesn't include screenshots and jumps to the FAQ

- Clicking a thumbnail shows the larger image but without any elements for closing the overlay

- Pressing Esc doesn't close the overlay

- No skip links on any of the pages

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#27
post #9

Please consider adding screenshots of the UI that provide an idea of what the experience will be like without having to log in using Bluesky or other credentials.

I assume it looks the same as literally every other chat app

Yeah. Lots of discord-like free-software(as in freedom) chat apps are spawning. I think it's clear that whichever becomes the most popular will not be about who has better code but rather about who manages to get a stronger community around their project.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#28
post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But that’s not where you want your chats now is it? E2EE? And how does it keep it all private since apparently the Bluesky bros haven't figured that part out?

https://colibri.social/faq#where-is-my-data-stored I've just added a new FAQ entry to explain this in a bit more detail. > But that’s not where you want your chats now is it? E2EE? And how does it keep it all private since apparently the Bluesky bros haven't figured that part out? It honestly depends. Right now, Colibri is meant to function for communities that are public anyway. If you're a streamer, an open source…

This probably needs a bigger callout. A user who isn't familiar with ATProto doesn't even know to ask this question and the design space from its contemporaries (e.g., discord, slack, etc) suggests that chats are nominally private if folks aren't a member of the channel.

It's a very cool product but you have to let people know their messages aren't private.

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

#29
Users in a Discord server/local community on tools like Discord naturally expect that their actions within that community are private in so far as they trust everyone in the community (including the operator) to keep it so.

By using ATProto, Colibri fundamentally makes all of your communication within any community completely public to everyone on the internet.

That’s fine for something like Twitter, where the product sets the expectation of such a thing. You can imagine how big of an issue this is when you try to do it in a trusted community model. Add on that Discord is used by kids who likely don’t know this and you can see why this is dangerous.

I consider this not only just a liability but bordering negligence. It is fundamentally broken, at an architectural level

Re: Colibri – chat platform built on the AT Protocol for communities big and small

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post #29

Users in a Discord server/local community on tools like Discord naturally expect that their actions within that community are private in so far as they trust everyone in the community (including the operator) to keep it so. By using ATProto, Colibri fundamentally makes all of your communication within any community completely public to everyone on the internet. That’s fine for something like Twitter, where the produc…

any discord server that offers public invites is effectively public.
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