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Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#21

In the era of enshittification I can't really see the logic in tying a bunch of your infrastructure/services to the likes of stripe. Then again I also don't see the logic in asking spicy autocomplete to write code or provision services for you either. Maybe I'm just not the target market. I guess if you're spinning up 5 new toy todo list apps a week to show off how well you can talk to a predictive text engine maybe…

“Spicy autocomplete” absolutely made my day. Thank you.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#22

Creating accounts and managing billing across multiple platforms is a real pain. This is a good solution, but I’m wondering if this should be more like an open standard that platforms implement, with Stripe providing a way for platforms to charge and optionally for users to pay (in addition to credit cards, wallets like Tempo, etc) Use cases: create accounts, set up billing, manage secrets, manage resources, get invo…

The main advantage is being able to write bash scripts that automate all provisioning operations and keep track of all the necessary commands.

My scripts typically also serve as technical documentation for specific features and they are a sort of "unique source of truth".

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#23
I think this is a really cool idea that I hope doesn't work out. I agree with others in this thread that is should be based on an open protocol, not bound up in Stripe.

This is my gut reaction and subject to change but...

I say this as someone who uses Stripe heavily and would 100% use them as my "financial provider" (or whatever you'd call the funding source in this system), but owned by them? Ehh, feels way too dangerous to build on top of. I wouldn't trust anyone to be the sole owner of it, I wouldn't want to build my business on top it.

Yes, I build on top of Stripe currently and think they are the best developer experience by far and I've found their costs acceptable for what they've allowed me to build without worrying about the financial side. But, I could switch away from them if they blocked me or I found a better alternative. Making my whole business dependent on them? That's a lot scarier. It's the same reason I didn't use Atlas, even though it would have made things simpler.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

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post #24

Can someone enlighten me how exactly an AI agent will signup for a service like Stripe without going through the standard KYC process when opening an account? Am I misunderstanding what this does? Perhaps. I am asking the lazy web.

I'm going to guess that signing up for stripe is a prerequisite to use this. I will try it out later and confirm. I think I just got access.

EDIT: The linked docs from their blog post point to a login step after you install it. So yeah, signing up for stripe is a prereq.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#26
You know who is completely missing the boat on solving this problem? Heroku. I guess I should say Salesforce. It's pretty amazing though - they used to be the default "deploy this shit I just wrote" choice.

I'm excited to try Stripe Projects, but the thing I'm kind of dreading is the need for multiple providers. If I want auth, a database, and a front end, I'm using Supabase and Vercel, for instance. I don't blame Stripe for this - that's just where we're at right now, with everyone unbundling platforms over the past decade. I think platforms will be back in style soon enough.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#27

I think this is a really cool idea that I hope doesn't work out. I agree with others in this thread that is should be based on an open protocol, not bound up in Stripe. This is my gut reaction and subject to change but... I say this as someone who uses Stripe heavily and would 100% use them as my "financial provider" (or whatever you'd call the funding source in this system), but owned by them? Ehh, feels way too dan…

It doesn't appear that they own it. More like they're adding infrastructure scaffolding to your project and giving you a CLI to deploy it. From what I can see, nothing breaks if you delete the CLI, and you're fine to deploy it to the same providers on your own or migrate it.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#28
I think there is still room, since, as I understand it, I do not want coding agents to use the same account that I end up using. I understand that some users may not care, but I think agents should have their own accounts and the ability to create their own accounts and use services like Vercel, Supabase, etc.

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#29
post #24

Can someone enlighten me how exactly an AI agent will signup for a service like Stripe without going through the standard KYC process when opening an account? Am I misunderstanding what this does? Perhaps. I am asking the lazy web.

I'm going to guess that signing up for stripe is a prerequisite to use this. I will try it out later and confirm. I think I just got access. EDIT: The linked docs from their blog post point to a login step after you install it. So yeah, signing up for stripe is a prereq.

So you handover access to stripe to your AI agent? Is this how this works?

Re: Stripe Projects: Provision and manage services from the CLI

#30

Why does this need to be a CLI? I don't want to use a terminal, we should be moving away from this. I really hope this becomes just a button or a mobile app instead and not have to keep using terminals all the time.

Presumably because agents use CLIs well, since they're strictly text-based.
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