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Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Democrats are explicitly opposed to a clean DHS funding bill with no changes.

As they should be. I don’t want to fund DHS and I’m happy my reps are doing their job to keep it shut down. Funding TSA specifically is acceptable and has in fact been voted down in the senate by republicans several times now.

Why do you oppose FEMA funding?

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They'll vote for a clean TSA funding bill. Why are the reps tying all the star chamber shit they are doing with ICE to TSA funding?

Cool, so no FEMA funding. Good luck with the next disaster everyone, Democrats are politically grandstanding again.

I'm sure they'll vote for a clean FEMA bill, too.

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Step 2 in a nazi takeover of the United States. More is coming.

I don't know if I'd phrase it like that. It does show they see ICE as a fix all police they can deploy for a wide variety of purposes though. ICE is better funded than some branches of the military, and they are demonstrating they are willing to use ICE for whatever they think needs to be done.

It is clear that a more centralised system is being established which is progression towards authoritarianism.

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Straight white US citizen male here. This scares the shit out of me. I travel for work all the time, but understanding that we will now have barely trained, and in many cases completely lawless, consequence-free federal officers in direct, high stress, public areas where lots of people are constantly passing through seems like an absolute recipe for tragedy. This will 100% make me reconsider travel and avoid airports…

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Keep in mind that the Democrats have proposed five bills to fund the TSA, and the Republicans have shot them all down. This reichstag fire is manufactured.

Democrats are explicitly opposed to a clean DHS funding bill with no changes.

This is straight up untrue. There are clean bill proposals to fund TSA that Republicans have rejected. https://www.perplexity.ai/search/are-the-proposed-tsa-fundin...

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Cool, so no FEMA funding. Good luck with the next disaster everyone, Democrats are politically grandstanding again.

I'm sure they'll vote for a clean FEMA bill, too.

Huh? The Democrats bill did not include FEMA funding.

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For all its flaws, TSA (at least under previous administrations) did a lot of design thinking work around how to streamline flows through airports, minimize travel stress and conflict, and optimize to minimize traveler complaints while continuing to maintain security. Bringing in shock theater optimized staff is a particularly poor fit for a scenario that will impact a disproportionately voting and bipartisan pool of…

> while continuing to maintain security.

They continued to maintain the illusion of security. The underwear bomber and shoe bomber had no problem smuggling explosives onto an aircraft directly under their noses.

Their idea of "security" is to get you into a scanner so they can stare at and save images of your naked body. Or to buy really expensive "sniffer" robots that don't work in one of the most corrupt government contracts recently known about.

Meanwhile, cockpit doors still have several functional deficiencies that make pilots vulnerable to the original attack that led to the creation of this derelict agency.

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Virtually all commercial passenger flights are to international airports.

At least in the large airports, the international flights come in to a separate terminal. Will ICE limit their involvement to that terminal only, and only inbound flights? Immigration and Customs have no business on the outbound side or with domestic passengers.

Some international flights arrive in to domestic US terminals. These are from a limited set of countries where passengers have cleared US immigration in the departure country.

Canada, Ireland and the UAE are the major three, plus Aruba, Barbados and Bermuda.

Re: Tom Homan confirms ICE to be at airports starting Monday

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Virtually all commercial passenger flights are to international airports.

At least in the large airports, the international flights come in to a separate terminal. Will ICE limit their involvement to that terminal only, and only inbound flights? Immigration and Customs have no business on the outbound side or with domestic passengers.

Since they will support tsa operations, I’m going to assume they will be at the outbound security checkpoints. Both domestic and international.
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