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Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by camillomiller »

cinntaile wrote: post #13
camillomiller wrote: post #9

I have witnessed in person what LLMs have done to the mind of seemingly intelligent people. It’s a disaster.

Don't leave us hanging. What happened?

A CTO sent me a message that opened with:

“Here’s a friendly message that will perfectly convey what you want to say”.

A double PhD friend says she has to talk to chatGPT for all sort of advice and can’t feel safe not doing it, “because you know I’m single and don’t have a companion to spitball my ideas”. She let chatGPT decide which way to take to get to a certain island, and she got stranded because the suggested service didn’t exist.

I have more examples. It’s a fucking mind virus.

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by zarzavat »

maxrmk wrote: post #20

Ironic coming from the Guardian. One of their journalists consistently publishes ai slop and the paper is in denial about it. https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2023089526445371777?s=46

It doesn't seem AI generated to me. Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by crop_rotation »

HN is full of people saying ABCD should know better and honestly I thought the same, but when I look at almost all of my friends working in critical domains like as a judge or engineer or lawyer or even doctor, they seem to trust ChatGPT more or less blindly. People get defensive when I point out out to them that ChatGPT will make things up and it is widely know, and some even tell me it is the fault of "tech people" for not fixing it and they can't be expected to double check every chatgpt conversation. So I am very sure this problem is more prevalent than what we see and also that it is going to continue increasing.

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by maxrmk »

zarzavat wrote: post #22
maxrmk wrote: post #20

Ironic coming from the Guardian. One of their journalists consistently publishes ai slop and the paper is in denial about it. https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2023089526445371777?s=46

It doesn't seem AI generated to me. Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

Fair enough. It reads as extremely AI generated to me. But that isn’t completely reliable.

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by sigseg1v »

camillomiller wrote: post #21
cinntaile wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't leave us hanging. What happened?

A CTO sent me a message that opened with: “Here’s a friendly message that will perfectly convey what you want to say”. A double PhD friend says she has to talk to chatGPT for all sort of advice and can’t feel safe not doing it, “because you know I’m single and don’t have a companion to spitball my ideas”. She let chatGPT decide which way to take to get to a certain island, and she got stranded because the suggested s…

How is the getting stranded example different than asking on a travel forum how to get somewhere, and an active and well intentioned user that isn't familiar with your area of travel answers, gives you wrong instructions, and you get lost?

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by hvb2 »

Chinjut wrote: post #2

Good lord, even the apology is AI generated: "That was not just careless—it was wrong." https://pressanddemocracy.substack.com/p/i-am-admitting-my-m...

I think his apology was actually written in Dutch so this might be a translation that was automated?

Source: https://www.linkedin.com/posts/peter-vandermeersch-a4381b30_...

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by gruez »

zarzavat wrote: post #22
maxrmk wrote: post #20

Ironic coming from the Guardian. One of their journalists consistently publishes ai slop and the paper is in denial about it. https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2023089526445371777?s=46

It doesn't seem AI generated to me. Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

>Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

I don't think we've gotten to the extent that all popular writing styles (eg. hamburger paragraphs) are considered suspect, but the "it's not just X, it's Y" construction[1] attracts particular scrutiny.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Signs_of_AI_writing#...

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by philipp-gayret »

zarzavat wrote: post #22
maxrmk wrote: post #20

Ironic coming from the Guardian. One of their journalists consistently publishes ai slop and the paper is in denial about it. https://x.com/maxwelltani/status/2023089526445371777?s=46

It doesn't seem AI generated to me. Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

This is either ChatGPT or the one journalist who influenced all of ChatGPT's writing style.

Re: Senior European journalist suspended over AI-generated quotes

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Post by gruez »

philipp-gayret wrote: post #28
zarzavat wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It doesn't seem AI generated to me. Are we at the point where you have to write in a particularly outrageous style in order to not be accused of using AI?

This is either ChatGPT or the one journalist who influenced all of ChatGPT's writing style.

If you look at the replies[1] to that tweet, many commenters point out his style was entirely different prior to chatgpt.

[1] https://xcancel.com/maxwelltani/status/2023089526445371777?

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