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Having Kids (2019)

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Re: Having Kids (2019)

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post #6

Having kids is a gift. But this is one of these kinds of knowledge that once you know you immediately can't explain to others who don't.

Love. Kids. Marriage. Divorce. Heartbreak. Death of a close partner.

Things you can’t explain to other people. But others with the experience just know.

Re: Having Kids (2019)

#22
Before having kids, I expected it to be this huge life changing thing. That it would effectively end the part of my life where I was free to do whatever I wanted, and start the part where I was just Daddy, doing nothing except serving my childrens' needs.

But that didn't happen. We just carried on being Jason and his partner, but with a baby in tow.

I had spent most of my 30s cramming in as much "living" as possible, to make sure I'd stocked away a lifetime supply of it. After all, I'd probably never get another chance to travel for long periods, keep up with climbing, and all that other stuff that Independent Jason could do.

But it was all for naught. We just packed the kid along and went traveling anyway. He had eleven stamps in his passport by his first birthday.

Life is just as much fun as ever. But now we have some kids to play with.

Re: Having Kids (2019)

#25
post #11

I also had kids, and while I love my kids I haven’t loved spending time with my kids. This will hopefully change as they age, but the first six years have so far been very much a drag on my life and productivity, and not much else. They haven’t provided fulfilment, and they haven’t provided satisfaction. Some joy is there from time to time, definitely, but nothing in the way the author describes. Happiness for me typ…

I can definitely relate. There's nights my wife and I get to bed and sorta just look at eachother and go "what the hell was that". Those days are hard.

I find the days that I forget myself and throw myself into trying to be a good dad are the days I find joy in fatherhood. Weekends especially I try to forget the stresses of work and productivity and everything else and try to spend as much time with them as possible. Playing, teaching, and learning with them.

Not saying it's universal. Just a datapoint from me.

Re: Having Kids (2019)

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This is one of my favourites from PG, not least because it's a bit antithetical to what I perceive as a growing trend among smart, ambitious people (for whom children might represent friction, inconvenience, etc)... as well as folks for whom COL is making the question irrelevant due to practical concerns.

Actually, it's really striking that even in America -- the developed country with the #1 highest birthrate -- still falls below the replacement rate. What is it that's inversely correlated between growing wealth and having children? Especially since it was likely to opposite for most of human history? (i.e. large families were a sign of wealth and power).

PS - I can't resist offering my own experience as a parent - what a treasure to have discovered that I'm capable of such love, and to get to watch this love transform me into a better person than who I was before. This kind of love demands everything of you, but through it you discover a truer and stronger version of yourself too.

Re: Having Kids (2019)

#29
post #6

Having kids is a gift. But this is one of these kinds of knowledge that once you know you immediately can't explain to others who don't.

I understand the idea but I take issue with the wording.

I CAN explain to others who don't. It's just that most of the time others aren't interested in hearing.

Re: Having Kids (2019)

#30

My favorite part is how pg says how kids made him less ambitious, but then: “On the other hand, what kind of wimpy ambition do you have if it won't survive having kids? Do you have so little to spare?”

It’s called having kid while rich so you can hire nannies, tho
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