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Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by OJFord »

piva00 wrote: post #3

Huang is absolutely losing the plot, salary is compensation for work done, for time spent away from other things in life, and to sustain your life outside of work. Tokens as "compensation" falls into the not-even-wrong bucket, tokens are business expenses as input for work. Edit: it's actually CNBC using deceptive language in the article, not Huang proposing paying people with tokens as brought up by OJFord [0]. [0]…

No, it's CNBC that's lost the plot, totally misrepresenting what he said. I commented longer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47454487

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by joe_mamba »

OJFord wrote: post #21
piva00 wrote: post #3

Huang is absolutely losing the plot, salary is compensation for work done, for time spent away from other things in life, and to sustain your life outside of work. Tokens as "compensation" falls into the not-even-wrong bucket, tokens are business expenses as input for work. Edit: it's actually CNBC using deceptive language in the article, not Huang proposing paying people with tokens as brought up by OJFord [0]. [0]…

No, it's CNBC that's lost the plot, totally misrepresenting what he said. I commented longer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47454487

Man, If I had a penny for every time HN jumped the outrage gun over statements taken out of context, or interpreted in bad faith, or over straight up misinformation simply because it's on an unpopular person/topic that's an easy target for people to attack without doing proper due diligence beforehand, I'd be able to afford a DDR5 kit. I'm glad there's people willing to go against the grain to clarify things.

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by torben-friis »

I've worked for startups which provided perks management (companies covering food, transportation, that kind of thing).

We had to be super careful, because here in Europe there are limits to how much salary is paid non monetarily. You get the book thrown at you for exceeding limits - it is a fundamental rule to prevent workers "paid" with living services, which borders in slavery when abused.

Are there no similar protections in the US? Could you theoretically be paid fully in food and shelter with no laws broken?

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by dragold »

joe_mamba wrote: post #22
OJFord wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's CNBC that's lost the plot, totally misrepresenting what he said. I commented longer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47454487

Man, If I had a penny for every time HN jumped the outrage gun over statements taken out of context, or interpreted in bad faith, or over straight up misinformation simply because it's on an unpopular person/topic that's an easy target for people to attack without doing proper due diligence beforehand, I'd be able to afford a DDR5 kit. I'm glad there's people willing to go against the grain to clarify things.

Since pennies are not produced anymore and are exiting circulation, will you take a tokens instead?

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by joe_mamba »

dragold wrote: post #25
joe_mamba wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Man, If I had a penny for every time HN jumped the outrage gun over statements taken out of context, or interpreted in bad faith, or over straight up misinformation simply because it's on an unpopular person/topic that's an easy target for people to attack without doing proper due diligence beforehand, I'd be able to afford a DDR5 kit. I'm glad there's people willing to go against the grain to clarify things.

Since pennies are not produced anymore and are exiting circulation, will you take a tokens instead?

Sure, I'm having an amazing time tinkering with LLMs.

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by markus_zhang »

OJFord wrote: post #18

He's not saying it like it's a benefit, part of the total comp, article is ridiculous. Here's the source (time stamped): https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jw_o0xr8MWU&t=2h3m26s He's saying it more like a learning & development or conference budget, that it's a tool people need and are going to ask about or want to hear they have a good level of access to when they're looking for a job. (I've been looking and already aski…

In the future, when AI is mandatory (as it is already in some workplaces, such as mine), token is in effect part of your compensation. You will need it for automation in your home, in your life, everywhere. AI will be the new smart thing -- and smart things today will be the new dummy thing.

Your appliances or computers in 2040 won't even run without tokens -- you can choose to find some scrape appliances or computers 50 years ago, repair and use it, but you have to build everything around it by yourself, because in the future, everything revolves around AI.

And of course, this is part of UBI that everyone wants, with a small twist -- I'm sorry to inform you, that based on your credit report, your UBI package for this year will be limited at 10,000 tokens per month. Behave, and you will get more tokens for next year.

Have fun in the next world. If you want a preview, and if you are working in a workplace that adopt AI extensively (i.e. your productivity is determined by how many tokens you consume, and your performance is estimated by such), simply remove AI from all of your workflow, and see what happens. I'm sure some people are still fine, though.

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by piva00 »

OJFord wrote: post #21
piva00 wrote: post #3

Huang is absolutely losing the plot, salary is compensation for work done, for time spent away from other things in life, and to sustain your life outside of work. Tokens as "compensation" falls into the not-even-wrong bucket, tokens are business expenses as input for work. Edit: it's actually CNBC using deceptive language in the article, not Huang proposing paying people with tokens as brought up by OJFord [0]. [0]…

No, it's CNBC that's lost the plot, totally misrepresenting what he said. I commented longer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47454487

Thank you for correcting the CNBC deception, it makes a lot more sense as part of a budget for devs similarly to educational/conference budgets.

Re: Nvidia's Huang pitches AI tokens on top of salary

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Post by piva00 »

joe_mamba wrote: post #22
OJFord wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's CNBC that's lost the plot, totally misrepresenting what he said. I commented longer: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47454487

Man, If I had a penny for every time HN jumped the outrage gun over statements taken out of context, or interpreted in bad faith, or over straight up misinformation simply because it's on an unpopular person/topic that's an easy target for people to attack without doing proper due diligence beforehand, I'd be able to afford a DDR5 kit. I'm glad there's people willing to go against the grain to clarify things.

That's why it's a discussion board, other commenters more informed about a subject can point out the deception/misinformation by CNBC and make me, uninformed about the actual origins of the CNBC deception, more informed and able to change opinion with more information.

Clarifying things is part of the process, the easiest way to get informed is to be wrong about something on the internet.

Isn't that part of the process? I read the article, I was misled by it (it was clearly framing it as part of the "compensation model"), and someone who had better info corrected it.

I'm very sure you don't do due dilligence and cross-checking every single bit of information you consume daily, you didn't correct it either, and just generated noise.

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