Honestly, this is a small pebble but feels like a ripple in the reasons why node.js is losing to bun and others.
Bun has claude code generated commits as we speak (as robobun).
No AI in Node.js Core
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Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#22If they allow AI in Node it just might do a full rewrite into Rust, Go or Elixir ;)
Well, survivorship bias means that Elixir is loudly populated by AI maximalists now. Just go look at the last several years worth of US/EU Elixirconf talks schedules, it's maybe a third of each cohort and included in keynote slots.
How is that survivorship bias
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#23I have no unique perspective to add other than an obvious question: If the PR is low quality, why not just close/reject it? Does it matter if it's AI assisted or not?
Because PRs with AI need to be reviewed with a lot more scrutiny, simply because AI is good at generating code that looks good, but isn't necessarily correct. So now you're looking at a PR that at face value looks good, but doesn't reflect the author's skill and understanding of the subject. Meaning now you shift more work to the owners of the codebase, as they have to go through those verifications steps.
Just deprioritize it and make the mr openers do more verification
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#24I can see the good intention in this move, but it's not realistic. The genie isn't going back in the bottle, so the priority shouldn't be artificial limits, but more emphasis on review and sets of eyes required to sign off on a merge.
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#25I have no unique perspective to add other than an obvious question: If the PR is low quality, why not just close/reject it? Does it matter if it's AI assisted or not?
Because PRs with AI need to be reviewed with a lot more scrutiny, simply because AI is good at generating code that looks good, but isn't necessarily correct. So now you're looking at a PR that at face value looks good, but doesn't reflect the author's skill and understanding of the subject. Meaning now you shift more work to the owners of the codebase, as they have to go through those verifications steps.
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Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
If this is your opinion, I ask you: are you okay with AI reviewing the PRs as well, or do you prefer a human to do it? Think carefully before responding.
I don't know why you have to qualify your sentence with "think carefully before you respond" it makes it seem like you're setting up some rhetoric trap... But I'll assume it's in good faith? Anyway... I don't mind if a review is AI-assisted. I've always been a fan of the whole "human in the loop" concept in general. Maybe the AI helps them catch something they'd normally miss or gloss over. Everyone tends to have dif…
It sounds like what you'd send to an LLM lol.
"Think carefully, make no mistakes."
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
Well, survivorship bias means that Elixir is loudly populated by AI maximalists now. Just go look at the last several years worth of US/EU Elixirconf talks schedules, it's maybe a third of each cohort and included in keynote slots.
How is that survivorship bias
Because people who enjoyed working with Elixir otherwise but don't want to participate or support that kind of environment have mostly left when the trend became clear. So the folks who are sticking around are the ones who are neutral-to-positive on AI. This means explicitly or implicitly surveying that group for opinions on AI's place in development work, such as while designing a conference schedule, are going to be missing most of those voices who might once have objected. It will continue to skew harder towards favoring AI in the future with most of the possible sources of more-critical opinions leaving.
That to me seems to match the definition of survivorship bias quite well?
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#28Honestly, this is a small pebble but feels like a ripple in the reasons why node.js is losing to bun and others.
Bun has claude code generated commits as we speak (as robobun).
Which does pull into question the future stability or quality of bun. As much as I don’t think nodejs should ban AI, the quality of some recent robobun AI commit message and code quality looked like hallucinated slop to me.
Re: No AI in Node.js Core
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Re: No AI in Node.js Core
#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
How is that survivorship bias
Because people who enjoyed working with Elixir otherwise but don't want to participate or support that kind of environment have mostly left when the trend became clear. So the folks who are sticking around are the ones who are neutral-to-positive on AI. This means explicitly or implicitly surveying that group for opinions on AI's place in development work, such as while designing a conference schedule, are going to b…
Maybe selection bias.