what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?
What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.
Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
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Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#22what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?
they have bad taste obviously otherwise we'd all be using their project
Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#23Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#24what is stopping the poetry guys to rewrite poetry from the ground up as part of a breaking new release?
Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#25Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.
uv is much much faster, but has substantially the same feature set as poetry.
I'm not just talking about Astral here, I'm talking about the JS equivalents too like Biome and VoidZero which basically took the existing ossified architectures and made them gospel -_-
Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#26Earlier quoted context omitted.
uv is much much faster, but has substantially the same feature set as poetry.
Yeah. There was a wave of "rebuild it in Rust" companies and my complaint with all of them is that they became largely from-spec reimplementations of existing tools with little imagination of their own. The Rust projects are a fraction of the age of the scripted ones and they already feel ossified. I'm not just talking about Astral here, I'm talking about the JS equivalents too like Biome and VoidZero which basically…
uv is way more than a rewrite in Rust of Poetry or pip - it has a metric ton of smart design decisions that are independent of the language it was written in, both in terms of what it does and how it speeds things up under the hood.
https://nesbitt.io/2025/12/26/how-uv-got-so-fast.html is a useful review of some of the architectural tricks they came up with.
Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#27Earlier quoted context omitted.
What happened to Poetry? did it just not gain enough traction? I was under the impression it was the hot new thing a few years back then uv comes out of nowhere.
I thought the same thing. Just a few years ago, everyone here was proclaiming Poetry was great, the python ecosystem was finally tamed, pip/conda/setuptools was dead, and every project and developer needs to adopt it. Now it’s just a has-been. The churn in python is incredible.
Re: Thoughts on OpenAI acquiring Astral and uv/ruff/ty
#28Not to gatekeep things but if you think uv solved python dependency issues then you probably never had those issues in the first place and pip would have been enough for your use case. Conda on the other hand, with external binary dependencies, now we're talking.