You know what would be actually cool and a transformative improvement? Mozilla to make an iOS port of Firefox and publish it in regions where Apple has been forced to allow it.
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#22> Mozilla said the free tier will initially provide 50GB of monthly data to users in the United States, France, Germany, and the United Kingdom. Sadly no countries are mentioned where such VPN is really needed (due to strict internet censorship).
With Ofcom I'd say the UK falls into that group nicely.
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#23As I understand it, it is just like in Opera. So a proxy not a VPN. I honestly find it distasteful that they may call it a VPN without it actually being one.
What makes a proxy a "VPN" again? Most popular "VPN" companies only offer a proxy that merely runs over a VPN protocol.
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#24I often use Opera browser's free proxy they offer for basic browsing or blocked sites. They advertise it as a free VPN but it's merely a proxy. As far as I know, it's unlimited traffic and you can choose the region it connects to. Edge also has some Microsoft VPN with a very small amount of bandwidth for the free tier. I'm fine with this kind of stuff as long as people are aware it doesn't offer the same connectivity…
> They advertise it as a free VPN but it's merely a proxy. What's the difference when you're accessing it through a browser? > I'm fine with this kind of stuff as long as people are aware it doesn't offer the same connectivity as a full paid VPN. Are you talking about it not reaching out and affecting other programs, or is there a restriction within the browser?
It comes down to encryption. Proxies aren’t usually encrypted, I don’t know what it does in opera or Firefox’s case.
Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149
#25As I understand it, it is just like in Opera. So a proxy not a VPN. I honestly find it distasteful that they may call it a VPN without it actually being one.
Because people understand VPN but not necessarily proxy. It's targeted to non-tech people.
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#26As I understand it, it is just like in Opera. So a proxy not a VPN. I honestly find it distasteful that they may call it a VPN without it actually being one.
What makes a proxy a "VPN" again? Most popular "VPN" companies only offer a proxy that merely runs over a VPN protocol.
> Most popular "VPN" companies only offer a proxy that merely runs over a VPN protocol.
Well that doesn't seem true?
Mullvad, Proton, Private Internet Access, NordVPN, ExpressVPN etc are all VPNs. You can use them for whatever protocol you want.
Re: Mozilla to launch free built-in VPN in upcoming Firefox 149
#27I often use Opera browser's free proxy they offer for basic browsing or blocked sites. They advertise it as a free VPN but it's merely a proxy. As far as I know, it's unlimited traffic and you can choose the region it connects to. Edge also has some Microsoft VPN with a very small amount of bandwidth for the free tier. I'm fine with this kind of stuff as long as people are aware it doesn't offer the same connectivity…
> They advertise it as a free VPN but it's merely a proxy. What's the difference when you're accessing it through a browser? > I'm fine with this kind of stuff as long as people are aware it doesn't offer the same connectivity as a full paid VPN. Are you talking about it not reaching out and affecting other programs, or is there a restriction within the browser?
In the Firefox case, no difference. It doesn’t encrypt traffic from your device outside of Firefox but for whatever you do inside of Firefox it’s == VPN.
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#28Why are they trying to sell a VPN in the countries where users barely need it?
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#29As a Firefox user: if I want a VPN I'll use an actual VPN. Focus on making a great browser, and not all this distraction. Also, "free": "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"
> "If you're not paying for it, you're the product being sold"
This is such a un-nuanced take.
In this case Firefox's route-to-market is the product. It's a distribution channel where some people who receive the free version will upgrade.
Free tiers for products where some will pay to upgrade seems like a reasonable compromise, but it does depend on how the deal is structured.
If Mullvad pays Firefox for the free users then Firefox's incentives are aligned with its users.
If Mullvad pays per conversion then it's a different story.
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#30Earlier quoted context omitted.
What makes a proxy a "VPN" again? Most popular "VPN" companies only offer a proxy that merely runs over a VPN protocol.
> Most popular "VPN" companies only offer a proxy that merely runs over a VPN protocol. Well that doesn't seem true? Mullvad, Proton, Private Internet Access, NordVPN, ExpressVPN etc are all VPNs. You can use them for whatever protocol you want.
All of them offer only proxied access to the internet. They do not expose access to any "private network".