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Why Lab Coats Turned White

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Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it makes sense, notebooks are hard to sterilize.

> notebooks are hard to sterilize Washing / sterilizing the lab coat has the same effect as erasing the data written on it. There isn't a library of lab coats which contain notes written on them, for future consultation. A notepad page is also easier to permanently sterilize (via incineration) than a lab coat.

The labcoat is a kind of L1 data cache.

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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When I worked in the NHS, our coats were far from white because we used to write on them, in magic marker, things like specimen numbers, doctors and nurses names, phone numbers etc. that we had to deal with queries about. I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again. Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs carried useful things like notebooks (paper) and biros. And now…

> Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs… What an odd thing to say

The writer is retired and probably in his 70s now, so keep that in mind

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it makes sense, notebooks are hard to sterilize.

> notebooks are hard to sterilize Washing / sterilizing the lab coat has the same effect as erasing the data written on it. There isn't a library of lab coats which contain notes written on them, for future consultation. A notepad page is also easier to permanently sterilize (via incineration) than a lab coat.

The commenter acknowledges this: "I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again."

I think it's pretty clear they were taking ephemeral notes, not using them for long-term archiving.

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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When I worked in the NHS, our coats were far from white because we used to write on them, in magic marker, things like specimen numbers, doctors and nurses names, phone numbers etc. that we had to deal with queries about. I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again. Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs carried useful things like notebooks (paper) and biros. And now…

> And nowadays in the NHS you will be hard-pressed to spot a white coat - people wear ordinary clothes, scrubs, or nurses uniforms. At least that's my impression as a recent in-patient. Yeah, they were banned in the name of hygiene (sleeve length) not that long ago. 2007 in England & 2014 in Scotland I think. The BMA has some lingering objection to it from what I understand, but since Covid they're all in scrubs anyw…

They do this at my local hospital at least. There is a plethora of colours for different staff roles. I understand this is not consistent across the whole NHS but in general the principle is mostly followed. eg, see

  https://www.workwearexpress.com/blog/NHS%20Uniform%20Colour%20Codes

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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I'm sure the article is broadly correct but in 3 separate academic institutions I've worked for in labs the assigned/monogrammed PPE coats were light blue, light red, and dark blue. Likewise my father in law's corporate research lab coats i've received as castoff gifts have all been light blue or dark blue

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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post #4

When I worked in the NHS, our coats were far from white because we used to write on them, in magic marker, things like specimen numbers, doctors and nurses names, phone numbers etc. that we had to deal with queries about. I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again. Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs carried useful things like notebooks (paper) and biros. And now…

As a lab worker, what the hell? Post-its perhaps?

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs… What an odd thing to say

The writer is retired and probably in his 70s now, so keep that in mind

I assume you're referring to the HN user zabzonk, rather than the article author Donna Vatnick.

The HN user zabzonk's profile description says "Ex C++ programmer and project manager".

It'd be interesting to understand more about their crossover from microbiology into C++ (or vice-versa).

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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post #4

When I worked in the NHS, our coats were far from white because we used to write on them, in magic marker, things like specimen numbers, doctors and nurses names, phone numbers etc. that we had to deal with queries about. I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again. Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs carried useful things like notebooks (paper) and biros. And now…

> "our coats were white because we used to write on them" It's hard to tell whether this is a deliberately trolling statement, a fantastical Walter Mitty style statement, or something else. Coats weren't white for anyone to write on, and clinical staff didn't routinely write on their clothes.

NB: The original post said:

    > "our coats were were from white"
Which appeared to be a typo.

The understanding of the original post was "our coats were white because", which implied the purpose of the coats being white, was to allow them to be written on.

The post was edited to read:

    > "our coats were far from white"
Which has a very different meaning. Still questionable, but changes the context from "it was expected that we would write on our clothes", to "we wrote on our clothes".

Re: Why Lab Coats Turned White

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post #4

When I worked in the NHS, our coats were far from white because we used to write on them, in magic marker, things like specimen numbers, doctors and nurses names, phone numbers etc. that we had to deal with queries about. I was always impressed that the laundry managed to get them pristine white again. Of course this was just us sloppy men - female techs carried useful things like notebooks (paper) and biros. And now…

In modern times, as I understand it, there has been a complex trade-off.

The environmental impact of that laundry problem has been reduced but at the cost of 3M Corporation producing trillions of post-it notes that carry such tidbits of information around labs instead.

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