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Re: NBC sites were hacked

#22

Hah. I always find it funny how the same people who are capable of hacking these high profile websites haven't updated their design, HTML and CSS knowledge since the '90s. Scrolling marquees and the horrible moving star background.. really? Plus the remainder of the page is totally screwed up. Here's a screenshot for when they notice: http://i.imgur.com/UT4we.png

d3.js or GTFO.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

#23

When HFG defaced the New York Times Web site in 1998, the group posted a long, apparently heartfelt screed that cited Voltaire, Tennyson, and Emerson, and tried to put the hacking in the context of big battles that mattered: "Just because we type in all caps and use 'elite' speak doesn't mean we are kids, or we don't own your dumb ass. For everyone who calls us immature kids, it shows one more person has underestimat…

I've said this before, but I've always been truly and deeply disappointed that groups like this didn't plant realistic-looking stories about an alien invasion. They had the New York Times! They had The Washington Post!

Imagine: one day, the biggest papers in the country simultaneously run stories about an alien takeover of the government. Then, minutes or hours later, "poof!".

"Oh, nothing happened. Nothing you care about. It was just hackers. And swamp gas."

Re: NBC sites were hacked

#24

I never understood publicly defacing a site like this, if you're technical enough to access a domain with a fair amount of traffic, why not inject some script that'll give the visitor a drive-by download, and go in for the long (and more profitable) game? Then again, I'm calling these people technical, apparently it's a simpler game now with scripts that any regular Joe (or his 14-year old kid) can run.

Its no simpler now than it used to be. People have been saying that (and citing the whole 14yo trope) since the 80's. It does require skill, even if you're just using scripts. What would give them more technical credibility in you eyes? If they wrote the attack themselves? In C? In Assembly? We all automate the hell out of things and lean toward the highest level languages for server automation anyway, why demean the…

If you think there's a difference between hacking website X with ready-made tools and writing the attack yourself etc... you are not thinking like a hacker.

A hacker doesn't care what the way is. He thinks about the goal, the end result.

If there's a ready-made script that can help or do it for him? Sure why not?

Having said that I agree that it does require skill and it is not as easy as downloading some random scripts and typing in a website and pressing the 'hack' button.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

#25

They always put up the worst HTML

I think it has become a part of the hacker culture.

In a way the ugly page represents the ugly terminal screens that the hacker was probably staring at for some time.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

#27

I never understood publicly defacing a site like this, if you're technical enough to access a domain with a fair amount of traffic, why not inject some script that'll give the visitor a drive-by download, and go in for the long (and more profitable) game? Then again, I'm calling these people technical, apparently it's a simpler game now with scripts that any regular Joe (or his 14-year old kid) can run.

They deface sites because that's the aim of the "game" they play - how many sites can that group deface vs this other group?

Tagging - an ugly pointless form of graffiti is popular for similar reasons. It's easy to do, and more tags == more credit among a small group of peers.

It's a good thing that people want to deface websites rather than hunker down and learn the long game. We'd be in real trouble if all the people doing minor stuff turned to major cyber[1] crime.

[1] "cyber" feels so old to me. Neuromancer was written in 1984.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

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post #23

When HFG defaced the New York Times Web site in 1998, the group posted a long, apparently heartfelt screed that cited Voltaire, Tennyson, and Emerson, and tried to put the hacking in the context of big battles that mattered: "Just because we type in all caps and use 'elite' speak doesn't mean we are kids, or we don't own your dumb ass. For everyone who calls us immature kids, it shows one more person has underestimat…

I've said this before, but I've always been truly and deeply disappointed that groups like this didn't plant realistic-looking stories about an alien invasion. They had the New York Times! They had The Washington Post! Imagine: one day, the biggest papers in the country simultaneously run stories about an alien takeover of the government. Then, minutes or hours later, "poof!". "Oh, nothing happened. Nothing you care…

This could easily lead to looting, displaced families, deaths, etc. as panicked citizens start totally losing their minds.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

#29
Why is HN hosting a direct link to a page that quite possibly contains driveby malware (as opposed to a statement and a warning next to the link). That is irresponsible.

Re: NBC sites were hacked

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've said this before, but I've always been truly and deeply disappointed that groups like this didn't plant realistic-looking stories about an alien invasion. They had the New York Times! They had The Washington Post! Imagine: one day, the biggest papers in the country simultaneously run stories about an alien takeover of the government. Then, minutes or hours later, "poof!". "Oh, nothing happened. Nothing you care…

This could easily lead to looting, displaced families, deaths, etc. as panicked citizens start totally losing their minds.

Will it get the citizens that are brighter than your average crayon thinking and questioning the things they read?
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