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At what point will we have people transmit their car dash cams along with GPS information in order to generate more data? I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened yet with self driving car manufacturers needing more and more data
> crowdsourced data, seemingly collected for one purpose > Whether players knew it or not, those scans were creating 3D models of the real world Kind of shitty reporting. Did users know about this data collection or not? Was it not disclosed?
The privacy policy was just a generic corporate "we may collect some information to improve a service" crap. Technically, lawyers will argue that users had to opportunity to inform themselves. Practically, nobody knew.
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheSilphRoad/comments/8i7byi/pokemo...
At what point will we have people transmit their car dash cams along with GPS information in order to generate more data? I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened yet with self driving car manufacturers needing more and more data
Not obvious if they're successfully selling any of their collected data yet, but they must at least have plans to try.
At what point will we have people transmit their car dash cams along with GPS information in order to generate more data? I’m actually surprised this hasn’t happened yet with self driving car manufacturers needing more and more data
Despite the lack of transparency, is this so bad? Players are being given a game in exchange for collectively building a database.
It's the lack of transparency that is bad. PokemonGo did not make it clear it was taking (and uploading) pictures. You could argue that "of course it must be for AR", but that isn't clear at all. The camera shows a live image before I take a photo, and I wouldn't expect a photo to be captured and sent if I didn't press the (virtual) shutter. There are probably some cheap phones that do precisely that, and I'd be just…
And for me it is not just the lack of transparency. It is the power balance. I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. I should not be living knowing that I am being exploited at each interaction with software. Transparency is good, but not enough. "Click here to accept" and thousands of lines of legalese do not create a fair society.
I like Pokemon Go and play almost every day. I did this scan one time and then stopped. The rewards are not worth the hassle. I don't think many players are doing it. It's just very weird to stand somewhere and scan an object. I also wouldn't say 'unknowingly trained', it's pretty obvious what it does, and I think the game even tells you that they want to understands how the POI looks like in 3D.
My son showed me how he does these quests: he points the phone at the floor and just wiggles it back and forth.
Big corporations have found the way to make us work for free in their own terms. The balance of power between the working class and capital is totally broken. And for me it is not just the lack of transparency. It is the power balance. I should not need to work for free, give my data, and god knows what to play a game. I should not be living knowing that I am being exploited at each interaction with software. Transpa…
The game is free, with doing so being the price. If you don't like that price, you can always pay $80 for a traditional Pokemon game.
As such, I don't get the handwringing. There is no such thing as a free lunch and never will be.
Niantic builds massive geospatial models that can localize and reconstruct views: https://www.nianticspatial.com/
Extremely detailed mappings of CONUS with spatial intelligence already built around it, and we let the company get sold to Saudi government last year.