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Pretraining Language Models via Neural Cellular Automata

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Re: Pretraining Language Models via Neural Cellular Automata

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Reminds me of "Universal pre-training by iterated random computation" https://arxiv.org/pdf/2506.20057 , with bit less formal approach. I wonder if there is a closed-form solution for those kinds of initialization methods (call them pre-training if you wish). A solution that would allow attention heads to detect a variety of diverse patterns, yet more structured than random init.

I'm partial to "pre-pre-training" myself.

Re: Pretraining Language Models via Neural Cellular Automata

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I did a similar project but using 3D fractals I found on shadertoy feeding into ViTs. They are extremely simple iterative functions that produce a ton of scene like complexity. I have a pet theory that the visual cortex when developing is linked to some kind of mechanism such as this. You just need proteins that create some sort of resonating signal that feed into the neurons as they grow (obviously this is hand-wavy…

What were the results of 3d fractal shader pretraining?

It's better than using randomly initialized weights. It's more of a theoretical exercise to explore biology. When an infant is born maybe the visual cortex already has some notion of edge detectors etc. through a system such as this one despite never having really opened it's eyes.
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