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Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by shevy-java »

throw0101c wrote: post #17
Eddy_Viscosity2 wrote: post #2

"The Pentagon has released a modernization plan for Stars and Stripes that affirms the publication’s independence while expanding Defense Department oversight, introducing new restrictions on content" Seems like this sentence contains contradictory statements.

> Seems like this sentence contains contradictory statements. "War is peace." "Freedom is slavery."

Trump kind of follows it - he declared his war against Iran over about 10 tims already.

The book 1984 was written in 1948 (easy to remember). Kind of interesting to see that it also fits to the lame strategies pursued by Trump. The "flood the zone with shit" is an older copy/paste strategy of the KGB (as explained in the 1980s by Yuri, though he did not compare it to the flood-the-zone part, but it is virtually identical https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9apDnRRSOCk; though perhaps even that strategy is older, the chinese have numerous stratagems that are ancient).

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by kurthr »

sigmar wrote: post #12

"Defense Department intended to “refocus” the news organization... it “should” republish content created by the Defense Department public affairs offices with a label describing its origin" Article makes it clear that they're banning the publication of wire services with the goal to make this publication more like a DoD PR team and less like a news source.

Wait, they can't even internally remember that they're the DoW (Department of War) and not DoD?

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by yoyohello13 »

llm_nerd wrote: post #19

Remember that Hegseth recently celebrated that CNN is being taken over by a friend of the administration who will eagerly parrot their propaganda in the service of keeping the idiocracy controlled. FCC commissioner Carr threatened media licenses for firms that aren't positive enough about the Iran war (or is it a war? Special military operation?) The US is in a bizarre place right now. The actions of this administrat…

It is mind boggling how so many people in the US are STILL supporting Trump. Like, do you not have eyes? All those movies about evil people gaining power with nonsensical support from the population were actually just telling the truth. Humans in aggregate are not capable of managing themselves.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by genthree »

The most-crippling part of this is removing their ability to use wire services (AP, Reuters, et c).

It means they can only cover news if they send a correspondent. They cannot cover much at all that way. It basically means it’s just a company newsletter now. They don’t even have any correspondents covering the war.

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Post by jfengel »

kurthr wrote: post #22
sigmar wrote: post #12

"Defense Department intended to “refocus” the news organization... it “should” republish content created by the Defense Department public affairs offices with a label describing its origin" Article makes it clear that they're banning the publication of wire services with the goal to make this publication more like a DoD PR team and less like a news source.

Wait, they can't even internally remember that they're the DoW (Department of War) and not DoD?

I suspect that was deliberate. DoW is the preferred nomenclature but DoD is still technically correct.

The article is phrased in a way to imply that the author would rather the publication maintain independence. It is probably the last time she will be permitted to say "department of defense".

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by dragonelite »

rngfnby wrote: post #4

About a week ago Stars and Stripes had an article that strongly implied that the war with Iran had already had far more casualties than the (at the time) three KIA. I think it was about increased blood donations in Germany.

I saw this message spread like a wild fire in the osint sphere 2 week ago.

Already told me war with Iran is going bad. Hell to the point that even John "we need to attack Iran now" Bolton couldn't get it hard anymore at the thought of attacking Iran.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by ivan_gammel »

llm_nerd wrote: post #19

Remember that Hegseth recently celebrated that CNN is being taken over by a friend of the administration who will eagerly parrot their propaganda in the service of keeping the idiocracy controlled. FCC commissioner Carr threatened media licenses for firms that aren't positive enough about the Iran war (or is it a war? Special military operation?) The US is in a bizarre place right now. The actions of this administrat…

> The actions of this administration are positively communist (in the most cynical, fear-mongered notion about communism)

I understand from which cultural context this “communist” label comes, but in political science it’s called “authoritarian”. Small but important correction.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by wat10000 »

shevy-java wrote: post #21
throw0101c wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Seems like this sentence contains contradictory statements. "War is peace." "Freedom is slavery."

Trump kind of follows it - he declared his war against Iran over about 10 tims already. The book 1984 was written in 1948 (easy to remember). Kind of interesting to see that it also fits to the lame strategies pursued by Trump. The "flood the zone with shit" is an older copy/paste strategy of the KGB (as explained in the 1980s by Yuri, though he did not compare it to the flood-the-zone part, but it is virtually ident…

Once, when asked about arming teachers in school, Trump gave a brief answer that went, we should, but we shouldn’t, but we should, but we shouldn’t. Four contradictory answers to a binary question in one sentence.

The guy doesn’t even lie. He’s a reality TV actor working without a script. He says whatever he thinks will get ratings, and if he’s not sure then he’ll try different things and see what sticks.

It will never cease to baffle me that so many people saw this behavior and said, that’s leadership material.

Re: Pentagon expands oversight of Stars and Stripes, limits content

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Post by OutOfHere »

tw04 wrote: post #18
OutOfHere wrote: post #14

What did they expect if it was Pentagon sponsored rather than independent? They can always post to r/WarsAndGripes.

They probably expected it to be independent when it was created and funded to be independent… A free press is one of the core tenets of a democracy. The government supporting that was not just unremarkable, before the current regime it was expected. This is not normal. Nobody in this administration is normal, and none of then seem to actually want to live in a democratic society.

All that is true, but dependence on the Pentagon is a vulnerability anyway. Tomorrow they could impose publishing outright lies. Free press is meant to be independent, not state sponsored.

I don't disagree with your point; I'm just seeing it for what it is.

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