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Re: LotusNotes

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Post by senectus1 »

dharmatech wrote: post #15
senectus1 wrote: post #2

I used to manage a Domino/Notes environment back in my early days in IT. Domino server was rock solid I never had to worry about it at all. Notes client was clunky and not super intuitive (4.* through to version 6.01 I think) but was still quite a decent client. groundbreaking stuff for the time. I have mostly fond memories of it.

What platform did you run Domino on? If Domino was solid, I'd imagine Domino on AS/400 was near unstoppable.

I had an AS/400 but unfortunately never got to run it on that. (it was a JD Edwards server for the ERP system)

Nope it was on good old winNT 4

I think we may have upgraded it to windows server 2000 at one point as well.

I remember that the disk partition it ran on ran out of disk space once.. it kept ticking along. just didnt let users make changes. Amazing stuff.

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by [deleted] »

dharmatech wrote: post #15
senectus1 wrote: post #2

I used to manage a Domino/Notes environment back in my early days in IT. Domino server was rock solid I never had to worry about it at all. Notes client was clunky and not super intuitive (4.* through to version 6.01 I think) but was still quite a decent client. groundbreaking stuff for the time. I have mostly fond memories of it.

What platform did you run Domino on? If Domino was solid, I'd imagine Domino on AS/400 was near unstoppable.

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Re: LotusNotes

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Post by pscanf »

dharmatech wrote: post #20
dharmatech wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just watched your demo here: https://youtu.be/vB3xo2qn_g4?si=y2udkdfezSR9ktUO Pretty cool!

I like that you can generate new programs from within the system. That's something I miss with Notion. I basically want a Notion but extensible and malleable like Emacs.

Yes! That's more or less the angle I'm going for. I mean, I don't aim just yet for Emacs-levels of malleability, but at least for something where you can create some useful day to day personal tools.

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by shrikant »

dundercoder wrote: post #4
GMoromisato wrote: post #3

I was a developer at Iris Associates--I worked on versions 2 through 4. For version 3 I stuck in an easter egg in the About box. A certain combination of keys would produce a Monty-Python-like cut-out of Ray Ozzie's head and the names of the developers would fly out of his mouth. [This was when the software world was young and innocent and developers were trusted far beyond what they probably should have been.] Lotus…

With everything as a note, how was it so performant? How did it scale so well?

Baffling to see this, in every place I've worked at that used Lotus Notes, it was an absolute dog on the system. Clunky, slow, and ground everything else to a halt. And this was the case even on a relatively modern laptop in 2019. Not what I'd call performant at all!

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by somat »

EagnaIonat wrote: post #18
GMoromisato wrote: post #3

I was a developer at Iris Associates--I worked on versions 2 through 4. For version 3 I stuck in an easter egg in the About box. A certain combination of keys would produce a Monty-Python-like cut-out of Ray Ozzie's head and the names of the developers would fly out of his mouth. [This was when the software world was young and innocent and developers were trusted far beyond what they probably should have been.] Lotus…

One of the things that killed it is it suffered the same issue as Visual Basic in that time. Anyone could create an application. 99% of the time that anyone had 0 UX experience and created travesties that were horrible to use. So people associated the poorly designed database with the product.

I don't entirely buy it, If true that should have killed the web, perhaps the web survived because it was not a product.

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by pscanf »

allenu wrote: post #17
dharmatech wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Is there a story behind the old guy in the logo?

It must be a nod to Freud (i.e. id, ego, and super ego)

Correct. Admittedly, graphic design is not even my passion, so there's probably lots of room for improvement. But at this point I've grown accustomed to the friendly face. :D

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by pscanf »

dharmatech wrote: post #12
pscanf wrote: post #7

I'm building an app that is, in a way, a modern take on Lotus Notes ( https://github.com/superegodev/superego ), and I couldn't feel this more: > It is hard, today, to explain exactly what Lotus Notes was. Whenever I try to explain what it does to a non-tech person, I'm met with confused looks that make me quickly give up and mumble something like "It's for techies and data nerds". I think to myself "they're not my t…

Many people seem to associate "ego" with negative connotation. The name gives a weird vibe. But, it's free and it's your project so, whatever. ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

Yeah, I agree, though it wants to be slightly provocative as well: it's all about you, your data, your software, your rights.

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by rahimnathwani »

andrewstuart wrote: post #9
GMoromisato wrote: post #3

I was a developer at Iris Associates--I worked on versions 2 through 4. For version 3 I stuck in an easter egg in the About box. A certain combination of keys would produce a Monty-Python-like cut-out of Ray Ozzie's head and the names of the developers would fly out of his mouth. [This was when the software world was young and innocent and developers were trusted far beyond what they probably should have been.] Lotus…

There were many reasons Notes died. It was very hard to get data in and out it had almost no capability for data import/export. Internet email killed Notes early advantage as one of the first email systems. It was a very closed environment hard to connect or program outside its own sandbox. Sharepoint was a full on assault by Microsoft on the groupware category and its enormous success was at the expense of Notes. Th…

I'm curious about this part: "The Notes formula language was good ish for the time but really became very dated, and the alternative LotusScript was a dead end too."

IIRC LotusScript was basically VB but with a different object model. Why was it a dead end?

Re: LotusNotes

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Post by dharmatech »

pscanf wrote: post #27
dharmatech wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Many people seem to associate "ego" with negative connotation. The name gives a weird vibe. But, it's free and it's your project so, whatever. ¯ \ _ ( ツ ) _ / ¯

Yeah, I agree, though it wants to be slightly provocative as well: it's all about you, your data, your software, your rights.

Ah... Ok, that makes sense.
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