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Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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As someone who's been around the block for affordable hosting providers, OVH was one of those that never really impressed. They never had any major downtime for me, but micro-outages, blips... things like that were common. Support was fine. In time I migrated off in search of better stability. Overall my gold standard is still Hetzner or DO for easy-to-use, affordable VPS/hosting options.

I'm using OVH for downloads from PortableApps.com as their un-metered VPS was one of the better and affordable options. Haven't noticed any issues (knock wood). Is there something else I should look at?

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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Why does documentation require hosting it on a server? My assumption is that it's a static site, and as such, even GitHub Pages would be sufficient. I know... all content has to be served via a "server" but in case of OVH it's a full-blown hosting solution isn't it? Besides, I'm sure GitHub wouldn't mind supporting Pandas documentation. They do it for a million other projects for free (even though they're not popular…

Probably because your assumption is wrong - they host a live shell and documentation search.

https://web.archive.org/web/20260220092649/https://pandas.py...

https://web.archive.org/web/20260225185816/https://pandas.py...

(I don't know anything about pandas, incidentaly, I just did some basic research before posting.)

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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post #19

As someone who's been around the block for affordable hosting providers, OVH was one of those that never really impressed. They never had any major downtime for me, but micro-outages, blips... things like that were common. Support was fine. In time I migrated off in search of better stability. Overall my gold standard is still Hetzner or DO for easy-to-use, affordable VPS/hosting options.

Isn't Hetzner strongly associated with OVH? I thought they were under the same umbrella.

Nope.

OVH Groupe is a separate VPS (and an extremely large one) based in France and Poland. They are backed by Xavier Niels (one of the powers behind Macron's throne) [edit: this is WRONG, confused with Scaleway and Klaba's past affiliation with 42].

Hetzner is a smaller VPS and colo in Germany, but provides a better experience for hobbyists.

HN idealist types will probably like Hetzner more than OVH Groupe's more enterprise oriented experience, but a number of government and industry critical apps in France are actually hosted on OVH.

In Germany, the bigger providers are either whitelabeling AWS (eg. Deustche Telekom) or implementing a chimera of GCP, Azure, and existing colos (eg. Schwarz's STACKIT).

I personally think the French approach to tech sovereignity is a much more realistic approach than the German method - French industries, financiers, entrepreneurs, and government agencies are actually aligned with building their own ecosystem, such as the effort put into LaSuite plus actually putting effort to host in OVH and Scaleway, and the fact that people like Xavier Niel actually exist, whereas the German equivalent would move to London or the US. Even French-turned-American tech companies like Datadog have tried to maintain a presence in France, but I haven't seen a similar thing in Germany.

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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post #19

As someone who's been around the block for affordable hosting providers, OVH was one of those that never really impressed. They never had any major downtime for me, but micro-outages, blips... things like that were common. Support was fine. In time I migrated off in search of better stability. Overall my gold standard is still Hetzner or DO for easy-to-use, affordable VPS/hosting options.

Isn't Hetzner strongly associated with OVH? I thought they were under the same umbrella.

Competitors on the same market segment - France vs. Germany.

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

#26

Why does documentation require hosting it on a server? My assumption is that it's a static site, and as such, even GitHub Pages would be sufficient. I know... all content has to be served via a "server" but in case of OVH it's a full-blown hosting solution isn't it? Besides, I'm sure GitHub wouldn't mind supporting Pandas documentation. They do it for a million other projects for free (even though they're not popular…

Probably because your assumption is wrong - they host a live shell and documentation search. https://web.archive.org/web/20260220092649/https://pandas.py... https://web.archive.org/web/20260225185816/https://pandas.py... (I don't know anything about pandas, incidentaly, I just did some basic research before posting.)

That's not a shell, it's a Python interpreter compiled to WASM and running in the browser.

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

#27
post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Hetzner strongly associated with OVH? I thought they were under the same umbrella.

Nope. OVH Groupe is a separate VPS (and an extremely large one) based in France and Poland. They are backed by Xavier Niels (one of the powers behind Macron's throne) [edit: this is WRONG, confused with Scaleway and Klaba's past affiliation with 42]. Hetzner is a smaller VPS and colo in Germany, but provides a better experience for hobbyists. HN idealist types will probably like Hetzner more than OVH Groupe's more en…

OVH is not backed by Xavier Niel. Niel is behind Scaleway, which is OVH’s main French competitor.

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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As someone who's been around the block for affordable hosting providers, OVH was one of those that never really impressed. They never had any major downtime for me, but micro-outages, blips... things like that were common. Support was fine. In time I migrated off in search of better stability. Overall my gold standard is still Hetzner or DO for easy-to-use, affordable VPS/hosting options.

I'm using OVH for downloads from PortableApps.com as their un-metered VPS was one of the better and affordable options. Haven't noticed any issues (knock wood). Is there something else I should look at?

Man I used PortableApps.com so much back when I was in high school to get around the "you can't install anything on this computer" rule... Thank you for your service.

Re: OVH forgot they donated documentation hosting to Pandas

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post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't Hetzner strongly associated with OVH? I thought they were under the same umbrella.

Nope. OVH Groupe is a separate VPS (and an extremely large one) based in France and Poland. They are backed by Xavier Niels (one of the powers behind Macron's throne) [edit: this is WRONG, confused with Scaleway and Klaba's past affiliation with 42]. Hetzner is a smaller VPS and colo in Germany, but provides a better experience for hobbyists. HN idealist types will probably like Hetzner more than OVH Groupe's more en…

Xavier Niel is behind Scaleway, not OVH
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