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Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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Re: Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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Post by surgical_fire »

mvdwoord wrote: post #15
surgical_fire wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Are you complaining about the Groningen gas wells? I thought that they were being decommissioned due to seismic risks?

haha yes, the grand seismic risks (economic risk in single digit percentages of the profits available) but not talking about not using them, they are actively and very costly going to fill them with concrete to ensure in the future (even in whatever extreme scenario) they cannot be used again. On top of the fact that we suckered ourselves into long term agreements which led to having to sell our own gas, far below ma…

> haha yes, the grand seismic risks (economic risk in single digit percentages of the profits available)

If I lived in the region I wouldn't really care if the economic risk is single digit percentage. I would prefer my house to keep standing.

> they are actively and very costly going to fill them with concrete to ensure in the future (even in whatever extreme scenario) they cannot be used again.

I think you are arguing in bad faith. If you hollow the underground, filling it with something is a way to mitigate the seismic risk.

> And our German neighbors, I can still see them laughing at the Orange Man Bad.

Okay, I see now that talking to you is a waste of time.

Have a great afternoon.

Re: Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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Post by mvdwoord »

surgical_fire wrote: post #21
mvdwoord wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

haha yes, the grand seismic risks (economic risk in single digit percentages of the profits available) but not talking about not using them, they are actively and very costly going to fill them with concrete to ensure in the future (even in whatever extreme scenario) they cannot be used again. On top of the fact that we suckered ourselves into long term agreements which led to having to sell our own gas, far below ma…

> haha yes, the grand seismic risks (economic risk in single digit percentages of the profits available) If I lived in the region I wouldn't really care if the economic risk is single digit percentage. I would prefer my house to keep standing. > they are actively and very costly going to fill them with concrete to ensure in the future (even in whatever extreme scenario) they cannot be used again. I think you are argu…

Love you too!

(to clarify, the concrete has nothing to do with the seismic risks, and is solely intended to make it impossible to extract gas later, which some people see as a valid way to lower potential seismic impact in the future due to no extraction... as if it is the only way to deal with seismic risks... and the whole point of the profits being ample to mitigate any economic loss is that people's houses can be either made resistant, or, you know, we could buy affected people a brand spanking new house)

Good luck with the rest.

Re: Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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Post by fhdkweig »

coreyh14444 wrote: post #16

Remember all the e/acc people telling us to vote for Trump? Some mea-culpas are in order.

Could you define the acronym "e/acc"? DDG seems to think it means: "What Does E/Acc Stand For, And What Does It Mean? E/acc stands for the phrase effective accelerationism, and it basically indicates one's personal ideological belief that artificial intelligence will one day become an all-powerful being that can fix the vast majority of humanity's problems."

I don't think I have ever heard a MAGA talk about AI.

Re: Qatar helium shutdown puts chip supply chain on a two-week clock

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Post by fabian2k »

breppp wrote: post #20

Qatar is probably intentionally shutting down production of gas and oil in order to pressure the US to stop, independently of Iranian attacks. In that respect they may be bombed by Iran but they have the same interests

Where are they supposed to put all that gas and oil if they can't transport it? I don't think they have much choice here.

And as far as I understand, helium is a byproduct of the extraction, so they can't choose to keep only the helium.

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Post by fhdkweig »

api wrote: post #13
varispeed wrote: post #6

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That's one of the most disappointing things to me. These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars. That's it. That's the best they can do. Even nominally selfish far-sighted things like genuinely funding a deep research program for life extension is not really something they're into. I mean some of them are "into" it in…

> These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars.

I really don't like how Bill Gates and Microsoft made their money, but at least he has realized that in his twilight years to try to make amends via humanitarian work. Buying the stairway to heaven.

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Post by 2OEH8eoCRo0 »

api wrote: post #13
varispeed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's one of the most disappointing things to me. These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars. That's it. That's the best they can do. Even nominally selfish far-sighted things like genuinely funding a deep research program for life extension is not really something they're into. I mean some of them are "into" it in…

I think we are somewhere in between. Most of us know what we should be doing but actually doing it is hard!

As an aside this might indicative of today's defective rich. Carnegie built over 2,500 libraries for example.

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Post by coldpie »

api wrote: post #13
varispeed wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

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That's one of the most disappointing things to me. These people have such resources and the limit of their vision is: bang young girls, accumulate bling, push divisive hateful politics, start wars. That's it. That's the best they can do. Even nominally selfish far-sighted things like genuinely funding a deep research program for life extension is not really something they're into. I mean some of them are "into" it in…

I think about how we could've paid for two brand new, gigawatt-scale nuclear power plants for the same amount of money as Elon Musk flushed down the toilet to try to shut down a website he didn't like. Extreme wealth is a mental illness, and wealth caps are healthcare.
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