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IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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post #15

I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

I very rarely experience chrome crashes, but when it happens, it's always the entire browser. I'd be a lot more worried that crashes almost certainly imply security holes than how much it interrupts my browsing session.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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I have to use IE 9 some at work and lately I've not been opening Firefox unless I'm debugging a website. IE 9 is just pretty decent most of the time.

At home I switched back from Chrome to Firefox this spring. I think Firefox performs better on Ubuntu. On the Win 7 netbook I share with my wife we run only Chrome.

So uhm, I guess my story is that all three of those mainstream browsers are totally decent these days.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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post #15

I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

It was chrome's marketing earlier now it's Microsoft's. I think they are both great browsers on their own. I find IE10 to be even better and so much faster though.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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post #15

I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

> FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions).

This is a misconception held by people that haven't used Firefox as of late. I actually frequently encounter crashes in Chrome, whereas I do not with Firefox.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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post #15

I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

> FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). This is a misconception held by people that haven't used Firefox as of late. I actually frequently encounter crashes in Chrome, whereas I do not with Firefox.

Not it's actually still very slow. Theres a JS demo ever 3 days on HN that runs terribly in FF. Plenty of other 'pushing the envelope' demos do the same thing to FF. To their credit the FF team is usually here, or finds them, and bugs are quickly reported.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

#26

I have to use IE 9 some at work and lately I've not been opening Firefox unless I'm debugging a website. IE 9 is just pretty decent most of the time. At home I switched back from Chrome to Firefox this spring. I think Firefox performs better on Ubuntu. On the Win 7 netbook I share with my wife we run only Chrome. So uhm, I guess my story is that all three of those mainstream browsers are totally decent these days.

I forgot who talked about it (one of the leads from one of those three) and he said long gone are the days of seeing browsers massively outperform one another.

For the internet savvy, it's more a feature competition at this point mixed with user loyalty (Firefox, you'll always have my heart, even if Chrome is better)

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

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post #15

I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working. FF is slower than Chrome (at least the desktop versions). FF still doesn't have separate processes for tabs, so when one fails, the whole browser crashes.

> I see tons of ads for IE. Never for FF. Microsoft's marketing is working.

Are you using FF while browsing? Because I'm pretty sure those MS ads are using User Agent targeting. I would not expect you see any IE ads while already using IE.

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

#28
post #13

Please remember that IE6 is barely used in NorAm and Europe (0.59% NorAm from statcounter). It's mostly in China. If China is not your target market, please ignore IE6.

This is from one of the sites (North American B2B publication) I manage that's been around a few years:

http://i.imgur.com/WADrl.png

(The top blue line is total Internet Explorer visits.)

The data backs up what you are saying. IE6 is definitely dead!

Re: IE9 passes 20% market share, Firefox falls below 20%, Chrome loses users

#30
I actually do most of my debugging in IE now - and I've actually come to like the devkit they've got going. Ok, I am developing for internal intranets which of which my primary is IE, but they've actually come a long way. In terms of PC browsers (Mac is a different story) I'd probably put Chrome first, IE second and Firefox third.

I still prefer Chrome, but partly because it is my preferred browser on Mac too - I like consistency. I also think that their devkit is ever so slightly better... but in saying that I'm not unhappy with IE - it does what I tell it to do, it's fairly consistent and feels quite light (compared to Firefox which still feels heavy to me even after their improvements...). Admittedly there are some tricks you need to learn in the IE devkit (e.g. add an attribute of style to create new CSS definitions) but all in all I think they've done a pretty good job at cleaning up their act!

PS: I used to do ALL my development in Firefox with Firebug and the Webdev kit. I find now that Chrome/IE handles things very well: though Chrome still allows me to install the Webdev kit if I need it (e.g. rulers, security checks etc). I guess I switch browser camps often based on my needs :)

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