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The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by csallen »

Invictus0 wrote: post #9
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

You could have easily said this twenty years ago when photoshopped photos were going viral on the early internet. Turns out people are completely fine with ai content and photoshop.

There's a huge difference between fake content and fake authors.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by crab_galaxy »

Invictus0 wrote: post #9
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

You could have easily said this twenty years ago when photoshopped photos were going viral on the early internet. Turns out people are completely fine with ai content and photoshop.

Fine in what way? What people?

I have not seen or heard of a single person who is excited about AI generated blog posts, or TikToks, or commercials, or images. In fact it’s the opposite, the internet coined the term AI slop, and my non-internet addicted friends hate the fact that chatGPT is killing the environment.

The only people I’ve ever seen champion AI are the few who are excited by the bleeding edge, and the many many peddlers

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by morkalork »

yakattak wrote: post #10
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

Honestly the $10 barrier to SomethingAwful back in the day (and I guess now since it’s still around) definitely made a huge difference. I hate the idea of subscribing to a site like HN or Reddit… but one time $10 to post? I’d accept that if it meant less bots.

Now we could only pay $$ to overwrite people's social media pfps, now that'd be fun.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by geek_at »

QQ00 wrote: post #14
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

Someone, somewhere, salivating at the idea of combining both ideas. A paid for digital ID service that you can use as authentication for the web. Actually, if I'm thinking about it. Social Media platforms already started this with the paid blue badge for verification, and it's also monthly subscription. But it's for their respective platform only, not universal.

Would that work though? Unless it checks your pulse every 30 minutes I don't see how that would make it better. Bots would use stolen IDs for that. It would only contain it at a smaller scale probably

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by gdulli »

Invictus0 wrote: post #9
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

You could have easily said this twenty years ago when photoshopped photos were going viral on the early internet. Turns out people are completely fine with ai content and photoshop.

Your comment doesn't make sense because the fact that "dead internet" has been coined since then (along with the popularization of "slop" and "hallucination") means there is a line and we have crossed it. Denial doesn't stand up to any scrutiny.

It's too bad we weren't more skeptical about the ways emerging technologies would eventually be used against us. Some warned about it but many (including me) ignored them. Perhaps we could be forgiven for that naivete, but there's no excuse to be ignorant of what's going on now.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by zem »

yakattak wrote: post #10
bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

Honestly the $10 barrier to SomethingAwful back in the day (and I guess now since it’s still around) definitely made a huge difference. I hate the idea of subscribing to a site like HN or Reddit… but one time $10 to post? I’d accept that if it meant less bots.

I think metafilter had a similar system and it was definitely one of the higher quality forums

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by d--b »

Well, it's not such terrible news, is it?

I get nostalgia for the 90s/00s, but that time was never coming back anyways.

The best we can hope now is for people to be less online. And if it comes from people drowning in AI crap, I think it's kind of funny.

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by bakugo »

bsaul wrote: post #5

I only see two outcomes for this problem : an internet of verified identities (start by uploading your ID card). Or a paid internet, where it doesn't matter who you are, but since you're going to pay for that email or that reddit account, the probability that it's AI spam is greatly reduced. And i'm looking forward to none of them.

This 3-year old meme video is becoming more and more relevant by the day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-gGLvg0n-uY

Re: The dead Internet is not a theory anymore

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Post by booi »

geek_at wrote: post #25
QQ00 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Someone, somewhere, salivating at the idea of combining both ideas. A paid for digital ID service that you can use as authentication for the web. Actually, if I'm thinking about it. Social Media platforms already started this with the paid blue badge for verification, and it's also monthly subscription. But it's for their respective platform only, not universal.

Would that work though? Unless it checks your pulse every 30 minutes I don't see how that would make it better. Bots would use stolen IDs for that. It would only contain it at a smaller scale probably

There's definitely a price where it doesn't scale and that price is almost certainly lower than what people would be willing to pay once for themselves.
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