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I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines). Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/…

Yes he is room-mates with.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Dwarkesh is your run-of-the-mill vapid influencer idiot. Fridman on the other hand, when in the presence of greatness, knows to STFU and listen.

I have been told the Fridmans association with MIT is mostly a lie.

Not sure if this is true, maybe someone who went to MIT around the same time can shed some light on this?

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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AI slop

> The uncomfortable truth is that...

> ...that the real question isn't...

> Corporate resistance...introduces friction at the infrastructure layer

And check comment history (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=julius_eth_dev)

Sometime yesterday, or further back, someone has decided to run a bot experiment (https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patchnull, https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079)

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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I really hate how people think LLMs == AI. An LLM can’t/shouldn’t be doing anything other than generating text.

LLMs are AI. Markov text generators from the 1970s/80s are AI. Face recognition software like FaceID is AI. Many people behind LLMs got degrees under departments that have AI in their title.

AI is just computers doing things we typically associate with human intelligence, and having a conversation with a computer that effectively passes the Turing test, is definitely AI. If LLMs aren't AI, then AI isn't a useful term. (though agreed that LLMs aren't AGI, which I assume is what you're thinking of)

Wikipedia's list of AI applications: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Artificial_intelligence#Applic...

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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> But within 20 years, 99% of the workforce in the military, the government, and the private sector will be AIs. I haven't seen this much hype and hopium since the dot com boom. The whole open AI -> Anthropic saga just reeks of the same evolution of Viant/Scient. Look we have an amazing tool, but it has some fundamental shortcomings that the industry seems to want to burry its head in the sand about. The moment the h…

> I haven't seen this much hype and hopium since the dot com boom.

The notion that 99% of the workforce and military will be AIs isn't "copium", it's grounds for absolute terror. One of two things will be true:

1. The AIs will be controlled by the Epstein class, who will then have no use for most of humanity, either as workers or soldiers.

2. Or the AIs will be controlled by the AIs themselves, which also seems worrisome.

Really, any situation where 99% of the workforce and military are AIs should be deeply concerning, for reasons that should be obvious to any student of history or evolution.

And, sure, maybe we won't get there in our lifetimes. But if we did, I wouldn't expect an automatic utopia.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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AI slop > The uncomfortable truth is that... > ...that the real question isn't... > Corporate resistance...introduces friction at the infrastructure layer And check comment history ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=julius_eth_dev ) Sometime yesterday, or further back, someone has decided to run a bot experiment ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patchnull , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079…

I mean almost certainly but what do the sentences you’ve highlighted have to do with that.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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post #18

But the "Anthropic fight" is mostly fake. Palantir was using Claude as base model. Anthropic allegedly took issue with unsupervised kills because the technology wasn't ready (or something along the lines). Also, I remember reading this guy has close ties to Anthropic. Also, I find it suspicious how he came to prominence out of nowhere. Like Big Tech and the establishment are propping podcasts of controlled narrative/…

Also Anthropic has made very clear they align closely with the DoW.

Really Anthropic doesn't seem to be fighting for anyone but a narrow subset of people.

So who cares, none of the but AI providers are particularly ethical. Pick your poison as your conscious and needs allow.

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The day after the emails came out he posted a video where they had beers while Elon LARPed as a human

Link please!

Elon Musk – "In 36 months, the cheapest place to put AI will be space”: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYXbuik3dgA

Re: I'm glad the Anthropic fight is happening now

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AI slop > The uncomfortable truth is that... > ...that the real question isn't... > Corporate resistance...introduces friction at the infrastructure layer And check comment history ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=julius_eth_dev ) Sometime yesterday, or further back, someone has decided to run a bot experiment ( https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=patchnull , https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47340079…

dang should just give power to users with 10 000+ karma and 10+ years on HN to nuke from orbit "green" accounts that do feel like they're posting AI slop. No due process, no recourse: just give users with lots of reputation and old accounts the ability to eliminate new accounts. I don't say this because I crave for "power": I only have 9400 karma. I say this because I'm tired of people creating new accounts to destroy our community.
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