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Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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Not nearly as drastic as the cabbage case, but to me it’s also interesting that there are three ancestral, wild species of citrus fruit – mandarin, pomelo, and citron – and all the popular modern cultivars are hybrids of those three.

There's other wild citrus genes involved in there too for some species.

https://www.jlauf.com/writing/citrus/

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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How long ago did this happen?

1990s research at Novartis, not sure how quickly the new cultivars were adopted,.maybe someone else can chime in

https://www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2019/10/30/773457637/fr...

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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I think the sprouts trauma is the result of picking the wrong cooking method. I was so surprised when I tried baked sprouts for the first time (use a really host cast iron skilet for even better results) that I started to believe that every vegetable can be delicious as long as you bake it!

The modern cultivars literally taste different, it's not just cooking method. The bitter compounds were identified and bred out.

I wish I could find "authentic" sprouts in supermarkets. I'm sure there's a niche for it.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

How long ago did this happen?

1990s research at Novartis, not sure how quickly the new cultivars were adopted,.maybe someone else can chime in

Did they get the sulfurous compounds out as well?

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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For some reason, there was a whole series of brassica oleracea memes going around in 2020 (does that make it a meta-meme? or is that the meme itself, and the images are just instances of the meme?), and they're still wonderful.

Just image-search "brassica memes" at your favorite engine.

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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If you liked this, you will be delighted to learn about the “Triangle of U”: the common brassicas are not just tetraploid, they are Frankensteinian mashups of earlier diploid species with different numbers of chromosomes!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_U

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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Because I love cabbage... the blog post shows "Gai lan" as an Asian example. There are so much more!

You are probably aware of napa cabbage, but there's also Taiwan Cabbage (goes by other names of course...) https://www.westcoastseeds.com/products/taiwan-cabbage

It looks a lot like a flatter "green/european" cabbage. It's leaves and stems are finer and softer than a European cabbage, while still being pretty crunchy (as opposed to napa). Compared to European cabbage, you could actually just stir fry these.

Gai lan is just one variety of "Chinese broccoli" - there are multiple varieties with different stem thicknesses, and "branching ratios". This will let you pick to suit your preferred level of crunch and leaf area to coat with sauce =)

And finally, all of the bok choys are also part of this family.

If you look, you can straight up find the half way points between subfamilies https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/080bca1a659bf2f8b12bca1494c67...

Re: Centuries of selective breeding turned wild cabbage into different vegetables

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If you liked this, you will be delighted to learn about the “Triangle of U”: the common brassicas are not just tetraploid, they are Frankensteinian mashups of earlier diploid species with different numbers of chromosomes! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triangle_of_U

Bonus trivia: unlike nearly all plants, brassicas make do without symbiotic mycorrhizal fungi!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mycorrhiza

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