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Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by airstrike »

Aurornis wrote: post #5

> Social media company Discord announced plans in February to roll out mandatory age verification globally, Discord’s age verification is optional and only required to disable the image content filter, join adult servers, and a couple other features. I’m not saying it’s a good decision, but I am getting tired of the repeated claim that it’s mandatory to go do age verification to use the service. This lazy reporting i…

Why, oh why, would you give them the long term benefit of the doubt for literally no gain to you whatsoever?

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by cultofmetatron »

kristopolous wrote: post #14
bilekas wrote: post #7

The fact that these tools are 'active' centric, i.e : You must perform an action to validate you're NOT a child, these will never protect children. A predator simply needs not to verify anything and appear benign and ironically more anonymous than law abiding people. I'm not saying the inverse is the answer either, just that if anyone without an agenda of surveillance looked at this for a second, the penny would have…

Sob stories about children are always weaponized for oppression. It was used to bash interracial marriage, gay rights, suppress dissent, attack the first amendment, and now this. Whenever you hear some dramatic story involving kids about how you have to live a little less free, know the tactic.

whats incredible to me are how many useful idiots out there STILL fall for it.

___ said hamas beaheaded 40 babies and that turned out to be a complete fabrication. That fake info was used in part to justify killing thousands of kids in ____

meanwhile the recent strike on Iran resulted in 80 little girls getting killed (with plenty of evidence) and its swept under the rug while we get blasted about the 7 soldiers that died.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by m4ck_ »

ArchieScrivener wrote: post #20
clumsysmurf wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> now i have free credit monitoring Might not even matter ... "TransUnion and Experian, two of the three major credit bureaus, have started dismissing a larger share of consumer complaints without help since the Trump administration began dismantling the CFPB." https://www.propublica.org/article/credit-report-mistakes-cf...

How much money did the CFPB actually give back to wronged consumers?

Pre-trump's attempts to eliminate the department, almost $20 billion.

https://www.consumerfinance.gov/enforcement/enforcement-by-t...

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by hobs »

cultofmetatron wrote: post #22
kristopolous wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sob stories about children are always weaponized for oppression. It was used to bash interracial marriage, gay rights, suppress dissent, attack the first amendment, and now this. Whenever you hear some dramatic story involving kids about how you have to live a little less free, know the tactic.

whats incredible to me are how many useful idiots out there STILL fall for it. ___ said hamas beaheaded 40 babies and that turned out to be a complete fabrication. That fake info was used in part to justify killing thousands of kids in ____ meanwhile the recent strike on Iran resulted in 80 little girls getting killed (with plenty of evidence) and its swept under the rug while we get blasted about the 7 soldiers that…

More useful idiots are born every day, most of them never are educated and do not see their past blunders as anything wrong happening, they are completely blind to the real implication of their actions.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by trashb »

Aurornis wrote: post #5

> Social media company Discord announced plans in February to roll out mandatory age verification globally, Discord’s age verification is optional and only required to disable the image content filter, join adult servers, and a couple other features. I’m not saying it’s a good decision, but I am getting tired of the repeated claim that it’s mandatory to go do age verification to use the service. This lazy reporting i…

> Discord’s age verification is optional

...for now ... What stops them from changing this in the future?

Additionally Discord may verify your age based on the collected data without consent.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by dpoloncsak »

Aurornis wrote: post #5

> Social media company Discord announced plans in February to roll out mandatory age verification globally, Discord’s age verification is optional and only required to disable the image content filter, join adult servers, and a couple other features. I’m not saying it’s a good decision, but I am getting tired of the repeated claim that it’s mandatory to go do age verification to use the service. This lazy reporting i…

Pretty sure in some EU countries it is mandatory now, iirc

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by Aurornis »

trashb wrote: post #26
Aurornis wrote: post #5

> Social media company Discord announced plans in February to roll out mandatory age verification globally, Discord’s age verification is optional and only required to disable the image content filter, join adult servers, and a couple other features. I’m not saying it’s a good decision, but I am getting tired of the repeated claim that it’s mandatory to go do age verification to use the service. This lazy reporting i…

> Discord’s age verification is optional ...for now ... What stops them from changing this in the future? Additionally Discord may verify your age based on the collected data without consent.

> ...for now ... What stops them from changing this in the future?

Then I’ll deal with that situation if it arises.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by Aurornis »

john_strinlai wrote: post #13
Aurornis wrote: post #5

> Social media company Discord announced plans in February to roll out mandatory age verification globally, Discord’s age verification is optional and only required to disable the image content filter, join adult servers, and a couple other features. I’m not saying it’s a good decision, but I am getting tired of the repeated claim that it’s mandatory to go do age verification to use the service. This lazy reporting i…

> I don’t plan to do the Discord age verification and neither do most of the people I interact with on Discord. until it becomes law, like it is (or in the process of becoming) ~everywhere.

Okay? Then we’ll deal with that if it happens. If it does happen then other services will have the same requirements.

Re: Online age-verification tools for child safety are surveilling adults

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Post by john_strinlai »

Aurornis wrote: post #29
john_strinlai wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I don’t plan to do the Discord age verification and neither do most of the people I interact with on Discord. until it becomes law, like it is (or in the process of becoming) ~everywhere.

Okay? Then we’ll deal with that if it happens. If it does happen then other services will have the same requirements.

>If it does happen then other services will have the same requirements.

that is exactly what everyone is angry about.

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