EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim • Hacker News Board

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by BlitzGeology91 » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:44 PM UTC

GaryBluto wrote: post #13

Why am I entirely unsurprised that this anti-LLM hard fork is hosted on Codeberg? At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

> At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

I don’t know. What makes you curious about that?

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by jasonvorhe » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:45 PM UTC

> https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor/evi/issues/19

This does not inspire confidence in the maintainers.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by askl » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:46 PM UTC

bilekas wrote: post #18

GaryBluto wrote: post #13

Why am I entirely unsurprised that this anti-LLM hard fork is hosted on Codeberg? At this rate, how likely is it that Codeberg is just going to become a wasteland of abandoned ideological forks (with the exception of one or two major projects) by next year?

I'm not sure what the angle of where it's hosted is.. Are you suggesting the project would have more legitimacy if it was hosted on github ?

Given githubs stance on AI "coding" it would be hypocritical to host the project on github.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by qalmakka » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:47 PM UTC

Honest question: why would anyone use Vim and not NeoVim nowadays? I've switched what, 12 years ago? And I've never had to look back. Just curious, to be honest. Especially since neovim is full of new features, while the Vim9 scripting language kind of tanked

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by andsoitis » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:48 PM UTC

Forker’s bio:

https://codeberg.org/NerdNextDoor

”I am NerdNextDoor, an autistic OS developer from Scotland who is heading to College soon with the end goal of doing Computing Science in University with some experience in (not much of any, but a bit of) Kuroko, C and Assembly in some architectures.”

Indeed.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by bilekas » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:49 PM UTC

askl wrote: post #23

bilekas wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm not sure what the angle of where it's hosted is.. Are you suggesting the project would have more legitimacy if it was hosted on github ?

Given githubs stance on AI "coding" it would be hypocritical to host the project on github.

So it's a fork based on principle ? I'm a slop hater as much as the next one but that really does seem petty.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by latortuga » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:56 PM UTC

qalmakka wrote: post #24

Honest question: why would anyone use Vim and not NeoVim nowadays? I've switched what, 12 years ago? And I've never had to look back. Just curious, to be honest. Especially since neovim is full of new features, while the Vim9 scripting language kind of tanked

I'll field this one as someone who has used regular ol' Vim for ~18 years and never switched. Why switch if your tool is working fine? I use vim literally every day all day long and it does everything I need it to do. Switching has a cost and there's no reason to pay it if it's working fine.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by vandyswa » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 1:59 PM UTC

Same motivation, different generation. I carry my own fork of vim 5.7, from around 2000. It did what I needed, and did it well, and I could already see where it was going.

SMH at what I see in it now!

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by fergie » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 2:03 PM UTC

zzzeek wrote: post #14

askl wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a bunch of commits that have "supported by AI claude." as well. Whatever that's supposed to mean.

the lesson here is dont put those comments into your commits. use the tools you want to write code and just use them. it's nobody else's business. if someone overuses AI (which is common) it's quite obvious anyway

> it's nobody else's business

Human origin certification is coming. It might be hard to enforce, but you should probably respect the intent if a project tries to enforce it.

Re: EVi, a Hard-Fork of Vim

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Post by cossatot » Tue, Mar 10, 2026, 2:04 PM UTC

qalmakka wrote: post #24

Honest question: why would anyone use Vim and not NeoVim nowadays? I've switched what, 12 years ago? And I've never had to look back. Just curious, to be honest. Especially since neovim is full of new features, while the Vim9 scripting language kind of tanked

I use both gvim on linux and macvim on mac for a lot of things--not 'real' coding, typically, but opening and editing scripts and config files, writing in markdown, etc; I'm usually opening these from dolphin or finder. In the terminal, working on real code bases and not scripts, I use neovim. My configs for these have diverged a bit over the years but since the use cases are different, it doesn't bother me.