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Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Once again, US companies and VCs are in this seed round. Just like Mistral with their seed round. Europe again missing out, until AMI reaches a much higher valuation with an obvious use case in robotics. Either AMI reaches over $100B+ valuation (likely) or it becomes a Thinking Machines Lab with investors questioning its valuation. (very unlikely since world models has a use-case in vision and robotics)

It is well enough to attract worthy talents & produce interesting outcomes.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Here you can see why it is so hard to compete as European startup with US startups - abysmal access to money. Investment of 1B USD in Europe is glorified as largest seed ever, but in USA it is another Tuesday.

A startup getting 1B net worth is so rare that such companies are called unicorns.

As the other commenter pointed out, this is 1B seed.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Here you can see why it is so hard to compete as European startup with US startups - abysmal access to money. Investment of 1B USD in Europe is glorified as largest seed ever, but in USA it is another Tuesday.

Europeans have free healthcare and retirement. They consider putting their money with long term benefits not just become CEO on Tuesday and declare bankruptcy on Wednesday.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Justifiable. There are a lot more degrees of freedom in world models. LLMs are fundamentally capped because they only learn from static text -- human communications about the world -- rather than from the world itself, which is why they can remix existing ideas but find it all but impossible to produce genuinely novel discoveries or inventions. A well-funded and well-run startup building physical world models (ground…

A lot more justifiable than say, Thinking Machines at least. But we will "see".

World models and vision seems like a great use case for robotics which I can imagine that being the main driver of AMI.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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post #15

Once again, US companies and VCs are in this seed round. Just like Mistral with their seed round. Europe again missing out, until AMI reaches a much higher valuation with an obvious use case in robotics. Either AMI reaches over $100B+ valuation (likely) or it becomes a Thinking Machines Lab with investors questioning its valuation. (very unlikely since world models has a use-case in vision and robotics)

> Europe again missing out

I can't read the article, but American investors investing into European companies, isn't US the one missing out here? Or does "Europe" "win" when European investors invest in US companies? How does that work in your head?

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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As someone in the tech twitter sphere this is yann and his ideas performing a suplex on LLM based companies. It is completely unfathomable to start an ai research company… Only sell off 20% and have 1 billion for screwing around for a few years.

I liken this to watching a godzilla esque movie. Just grab some popcorn and enjoy the ride.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Here you can see why it is so hard to compete as European startup with US startups - abysmal access to money. Investment of 1B USD in Europe is glorified as largest seed ever, but in USA it is another Tuesday.

Europeans have free healthcare and retirement. They consider putting their money with long term benefits not just become CEO on Tuesday and declare bankruptcy on Wednesday.

„free“

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Adds up : We are seeing a clear exodus of both capital and talent from the US - with the current US administration’s shift toward cronyism - and the EU stands as the most compelling alternative with a uniform market of 500 million people and the last major federation truly committed to the rule of law.

Re: Yann LeCun raises $1B to build AI that understands the physical world

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Justifiable. There are a lot more degrees of freedom in world models. LLMs are fundamentally capped because they only learn from static text -- human communications about the world -- rather than from the world itself, which is why they can remix existing ideas but find it all but impossible to produce genuinely novel discoveries or inventions. A well-funded and well-run startup building physical world models (ground…

I don't understand this view. How I see it the fundamental bottleneck to AGI is continual learning and backpropagation. Models today are static, and human brains don't learn or adapt themselves with anything close to backpropagation. World models don't solve any of these problems; they are fundamentally the same kind of deep learning architectures we are used to work with. Heck, if you think learning from the world itself is the bottleneck, you can just put a vision-action LLM on a reinforcement learning loop in a robotic/simulated body.
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