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Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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Sorry, this isn't rocket science at all. Standard clustering algorithms (found in any off-the-shelf natural text processing library) and text summation with libots should suffice for most of the heavy lifting. http://tldr.it/ http://libots.sourceforge.net/ Further, most news articles' first paragraph is a practical (although you may have not noticed) summary. Coming from NLP, unless you can influence the source and t…

I experienced an article in TheVerge which is mainly a video as its content. What I will be amazed is a good automatic summarization algorithm that is using abstraction and not just extraction. Also, check out circa ( http://cir.ca/ ). Never tried, but as I read, it uses both human and algorithm to "summarize" articles.

circa is a good idea, actually. From my close experience with this field, when a news article will be published it will be edited and republished many times, over many forms and shapes (Web, RSS, etc.) in many of these steps, a manual, human work is needed -- and this affects the volumes of the published news.

Further, many of the news really originate from relatively limited sources (reuters, etc), so you can plug your solution there as well.

Therefore it should be OK to assume that if you put humans at the same pipeline to summarize news manually, the capacity and efficiency will be reasonable.

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I experienced an article in TheVerge which is mainly a video as its content. What I will be amazed is a good automatic summarization algorithm that is using abstraction and not just extraction. Also, check out circa ( http://cir.ca/ ). Never tried, but as I read, it uses both human and algorithm to "summarize" articles.

circa is a good idea, actually. From my close experience with this field, when a news article will be published it will be edited and republished many times, over many forms and shapes (Web, RSS, etc.) in many of these steps, a manual, human work is needed -- and this affects the volumes of the published news. Further, many of the news really originate from relatively limited sources (reuters, etc), so you can plug y…

The problem in summarizing news manually is that it takes too much effort for a human to do it. The efficiency may be good, but as many news pass by, his efficiency will go down. (assuming that he's only the one summarizing)

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

circa is a good idea, actually. From my close experience with this field, when a news article will be published it will be edited and republished many times, over many forms and shapes (Web, RSS, etc.) in many of these steps, a manual, human work is needed -- and this affects the volumes of the published news. Further, many of the news really originate from relatively limited sources (reuters, etc), so you can plug y…

The problem in summarizing news manually is that it takes too much effort for a human to do it. The efficiency may be good, but as many news pass by, his efficiency will go down. (assuming that he's only the one summarizing)

True, but my point is people are already doing it at the start of the pipeline. Think what happens when Reuters decide to make a SaaS offering of their summarized content. Even regardless of that, you can hire a battery of professional summarizers instead of PHDs and do it pretty well.

Where this doesn't apply, and where I do think you're completely right is non-news articles: think blogs, tweets (although there's not much to summarize in 140chars), product descriptions, scientific articles, etc. These things are produced in much more volume and much less workflow around them.

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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From the looks of the website, the video and what the apps does, it looks like the idea got too much funding. Cmo'n they even have a famous person in their clip! Most news sites already give a summary in an RSS feed. This is most of the time sufficient. I think that a good idea should sell itself, not with all this fancy pancy. -- Facts: 17 year developer got a $250.000 funding http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/12/17/m…

It looks like the 17-year-old got enough funding to hire a proper AI/NLP lab to do his algorithm - reading between the lines, it's difficult to say how much input the founder had on the new product: my guess would be concept, maybe design, and possibly interface coding.

yes it appears the tech was done by SRI. still doesnt take away from the idea and execution though.

http://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/summly-wants-to-make-news-summa...

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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From the looks of the website, the video and what the apps does, it looks like the idea got too much funding. Cmo'n they even have a famous person in their clip! Most news sites already give a summary in an RSS feed. This is most of the time sufficient. I think that a good idea should sell itself, not with all this fancy pancy. -- Facts: 17 year developer got a $250.000 funding http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/12/17/m…

As a nerd I find much of the daily news to be rather trying. Much of it is of little interest and impact on my day to day life. I send a lot of time reading about technology and developments in our industry and almost no time on regular news. That said, as someone who likes to be well rounded, I think this is a woefully inadequate state for myself. I'd like to be aware of what is happening in the world, financially,…

Sorry to drive this off topic. I run The Brief, and to date I've published every week day by 10am, with the exception of two days where I had to delay it to later in the day due to a hurricane doing its best to destroy my city. What is it about that schedule you find irregular? I welcome any feedback. Feel free to email me (the address is listed on the site).

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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From the looks of the website, the video and what the apps does, it looks like the idea got too much funding. Cmo'n they even have a famous person in their clip! Most news sites already give a summary in an RSS feed. This is most of the time sufficient. I think that a good idea should sell itself, not with all this fancy pancy. -- Facts: 17 year developer got a $250.000 funding http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/12/17/m…

Agree on everything, just wanted to point out that Stephen Fry said he wasn't paid: https://twitter.com/stephenfry/status/264066858225905664

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks like the 17-year-old got enough funding to hire a proper AI/NLP lab to do his algorithm - reading between the lines, it's difficult to say how much input the founder had on the new product: my guess would be concept, maybe design, and possibly interface coding.

yes it appears the tech was done by SRI . still doesnt take away from the idea and execution though. http://gigaom.com/2012/10/31/summly-wants-to-make-news-summa...

Fair. I know just enough AI to realize that this is a hard problem, so the whole news-friendly "genius self-taught teenager builds awesome app in his spare time" seemed a bit incredible - I still wouldn't want to be competing against this kid for a job, though, he's impressively smart.

Re: Summly: intelligent news summarisation

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From the looks of the website, the video and what the apps does, it looks like the idea got too much funding. Cmo'n they even have a famous person in their clip! Most news sites already give a summary in an RSS feed. This is most of the time sufficient. I think that a good idea should sell itself, not with all this fancy pancy. -- Facts: 17 year developer got a $250.000 funding http://thenextweb.com/apps/2011/12/17/m…

As a nerd I find much of the daily news to be rather trying. Much of it is of little interest and impact on my day to day life. I send a lot of time reading about technology and developments in our industry and almost no time on regular news. That said, as someone who likes to be well rounded, I think this is a woefully inadequate state for myself. I'd like to be aware of what is happening in the world, financially,…

Orofino, I run http://skimfeed.com. It's a news dump site, currently in beta. Give it a shot.
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