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US tech firms pledge at White House to bear costs of energy for datacenters

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Re: US tech firms pledge at White House to bear costs of energy for datacenters

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Post by AdieuToLogic »

retrochameleon wrote: post #15
AdieuToLogic wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Using Claude to provide a legal definition of "pledge" is unconvincing at best. > What are the legal protections of a “pledge”? To answer that question is to first agree upon the legal definition of "pledge": pledge v. to deposit personal property as security for a personal loan of money. If the loan is not repaid when due, the personal property pledged shall be forfeit to the lender. The property is known as collate…

Your answer is less useful and thought out than the Claude response. Claude actually answers the question in the context in which it's being asked.

> Your answer is less useful and thought out than the Claude response.

"Less useful" is subjective and I shall not contend. "Less thought out" is laughable as I possess the ability to think and "Claude" does not.

> Claude actually answers the question in the context in which it's being asked.

The LLM-based service generated a statistically relevant document to the prompt given in which you, presumably a human, interpreted said document as being "actually answers the question". This is otherwise known as anthropomorphism[0].

0 - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anthropomorphism

Re: US tech firms pledge at White House to bear costs of energy for datacenters

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Post by staticman2 »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #17
techblueberry wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Wait, we know it’s not your definition, because it’s inapplicable.

> Wait, we know it’s not your definition ... Of course it is not "my definition", as I cited the source of it. > ... because it’s inapplicable. Take that up with law.com.

Your goal seemed to be to fact check Claude. I'm not sure why your failure to do so should be taken up with law.com?

Law.com's first definition is inapplicable. That leaves us with the second definition, which says nothing about whether a pledge is legally binding.

Re: US tech firms pledge at White House to bear costs of energy for datacenters

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Post by xeonmc »

AdieuToLogic wrote: post #5
techblueberry wrote: post #2

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Using Claude to provide a legal definition of "pledge" is unconvincing at best. > What are the legal protections of a “pledge”? To answer that question is to first agree upon the legal definition of "pledge": pledge v. to deposit personal property as security for a personal loan of money. If the loan is not repaid when due, the personal property pledged shall be forfeit to the lender. The property is known as collate…

Is it the same kind of pledge as alluded to in the Amber Heard trial?

Re: US tech firms pledge at White House to bear costs of energy for datacenters

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Post by 7thpower »

Even if the pledges are in good faith, people are being naive about how utilities work.

The general goal for utilities has been to pursue the next “thing” and work toward some sort of regulation to lock in demand, which can be used as a lever to seek price increases and consolidate.

If there’s margin to be had, the utilities will find a way, and prices will go up either way.

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