Live data from Hacker News

Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

boringops.sh

21–30 of 57 posts

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#22

I agree, fire the CEO. But I have a slightly different take that doesn't involve AI. What if we indeed get rid of the entire C-suite? Even better still: why are companies and orgs hierarchical? Why is there always a - for lack of a better word - dictator in charge? AI CEO is still an AI dictator. We are permitted to vote, but democracy in everyday life, that's a bridge too far, chaos, riots in the streets, cats and d…

What you're describing is called a "worker cooperative" and they are somewhat rare but do exist already in real life.

No, what they are describing is workplace democracy:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workplace_democracy

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#23

that's why Mondragon is not Nvidia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mondragon_Corporation

Thank goodness they're not.

I work for a cooperative in an upper management role. My goal is for us to sustainably produce great products that serve the needs of our community while being a great place to work for our employees. I couldn't possibly care less what our market capitalization is, other than from the perspective of wanting to serve the biggest slice of our community that I can. But if another co-op stepped in and did that instead, I'd be equally happy.

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#25
post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What you're describing is called a "worker cooperative" and they are somewhat rare but do exist already in real life.

Are they rare? Aren’t credit unions worker cooperatives? Insurance is often structured this way, and I’ve heard of farmer collectives too. I have a worker cooperative grocery store nearby. I do photography as a hobby and there’s all kinds of photography cooperatives, including Magnum which is incredibly famous in that world. I’m in an HOA which is another cooperative. This doesn’t seem rare to me.

Most "co-ops" are customer co-ops (Credit Unions, for example, are owned by their members, most grocery co-ops are membership programs, REI is/was the same). Farmer co-ops are owned by a collection of farmers, to pool resources for selling to consumers, but most employees aren't co-owners. Worker's co-ops are rarer, but you find them in the taxi industry pretty often, and in home care.

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#26
Turn it around - employ "copilot-boss" for your business and stay a grey eminence.

Perhaps a lot of indie devs hate executive and managerial stuff, then what if AEO could lead the business execution while being fed with some minimal project outcome objectives from the technicaly focused dev.

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#28
post #21

A big part of my job is responsibility. When AI can go to jail instead of me, I would be happy to let it take my job :)

LOL! The first thing that came to my head was, "I've never had a CEO that shouldn't be in jail. Well, except for the current one. He seems okay. The others committed fraud and deceit at a level that would surely have them on the wrong side of the law, if not in prison.

Kind of stems from every CEO except this latest one has been a. Some sort of mental, and b. some sort of sociopath. We can see this with our big name CEOs of course, but even these small-time CEOs have the same problem. They're lacking something human, but that is also part of what drives them, and keeps them, CEOs, I suspect. It's a job that requires you to not have any qualms about taking a group of people on a ride and then screwing them over for your benefit.

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#29

Workers ultimately have a job because they are useful to management, and management have a job because they are useful to ownership. Top management has insane levels of compensation as a strategy by ownership to alight management's interests with their own, by turning them into owners. If there is going to be a management layer at all, for example the proposed "A-suite", then their compensation will balloon for exact…

> Top management has insane levels of compensation as a strategy by ownership to alight management's interests with their own, by turning them into owners. If there is going to be a management layer at all, for example the proposed "A-suite", then their compensation will balloon for exactly the same reasons. That is not correct. Owner's don't align top management's interests with the owner's interests by giving them…

Read more Marx?

Re: Fire the CEO, Introducing the AxO's

#30
post #21

A big part of my job is responsibility. When AI can go to jail instead of me, I would be happy to let it take my job :)

I honestly think this is going to be a big part of what remains when AI is doing everything we currently think of as our work. Legally or morally, some things need a human in the loop.
Post reply on HN