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Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by stingraycharles »

vee-kay wrote: post #11
stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Why, though? What, really, does anyone envision the next decade with government + AI is going to be like? Obviously mass surveillance is already happening. Obviously the line between “human kills other human” is blurring for a long time already, eg remote operated drones. Missiles are already remotely controlled and navigating and detecting and following moving targets autonomously. What’s the goal of people who thin…

AI will get access to missiles, fighter jets, attack drones, and even nuclear launch codes - that's the fear. Even when the bombs drop from the sky, at least those humans who had deleted their OpenAI account can rest easy, knowing that that they weren't the ones supporting the AI that will delete humanity.

And what if an even worse alternative becomes the AI of choice for the DoD if OpenAI didn’t get this deal?

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Post by mentalgear »

stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Why, though? What, really, does anyone envision the next decade with government + AI is going to be like? Obviously mass surveillance is already happening. Obviously the line between “human kills other human” is blurring for a long time already, eg remote operated drones. Missiles are already remotely controlled and navigating and detecting and following moving targets autonomously. What’s the goal of people who thin…

Because openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where:

* he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs.

* also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies.

Both of his own warnings he casually ignored as ChatGPT / openAI has now fully converted to Facebook's tactics of "move fast and break things" - even if it is society itself. A complete turn away from the original AI for science lab it was founded as, which explains why every real (founding) ML scientist has left the company years ago.

While still being for-profit outfits, at least DeepMind and Anthrophic are headed by actual scientists not marketing guys.

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Post by qsera »

mentalgear wrote: post #22
stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Why, though? What, really, does anyone envision the next decade with government + AI is going to be like? Obviously mass surveillance is already happening. Obviously the line between “human kills other human” is blurring for a long time already, eg remote operated drones. Missiles are already remotely controlled and navigating and detecting and following moving targets autonomously. What’s the goal of people who thin…

Because openAI is the least trustworthy of the Big LLM providers. See S(c)am Altman's track record, especially his early comments in senate hearings where: * he warned of engagement-optimisation strategies, like social media, being used for chatbots / LLMs. * also, he warned that "ads would be the last resort" for LLM companies. Both of his own warnings he casually ignored as ChatGPT / openAI has now fully converted…

Mm..just wait till your current favorite guy becomes as big..

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by ekjhgkejhgk »

nesk_ wrote: post #9
ekjhgkejhgk wrote: post #6

Ok I'll bite: Why is this interesting? Is it because it's really difficult to delete? Or what?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47189650

Ah it's activism then, saying "you should delete it and here's how" Got it, thank you.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by tovej »

stingraycharles wrote: post #21
vee-kay wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI will get access to missiles, fighter jets, attack drones, and even nuclear launch codes - that's the fear. Even when the bombs drop from the sky, at least those humans who had deleted their OpenAI account can rest easy, knowing that that they weren't the ones supporting the AI that will delete humanity.

And what if an even worse alternative becomes the AI of choice for the DoD if OpenAI didn’t get this deal?

Then the sane thing to do is to boycott that AI provider as well.

Opposing all AI companies tied to the war industry is a pretty vanilla principles stance, which also makes sense rationally if you want to "minimize harm".

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Post by soulofmischief »

tzahifadida wrote: post #10

What about claude? Don't think they wont be used militarily that is naive...

You're out of the loop and making baseless assumptions.

This thread is currently trending because OpenAI just slid into the US CorpGov's DMs and signed a contract, hours after Anthropic was banned by the US government for not letting the military do whatever they want.

https://www.anthropic.com/news/statement-department-of-war

https://x.com/secwar/status/2027507717469049070

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by maxbond »

stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Why, though? What, really, does anyone envision the next decade with government + AI is going to be like? Obviously mass surveillance is already happening. Obviously the line between “human kills other human” is blurring for a long time already, eg remote operated drones. Missiles are already remotely controlled and navigating and detecting and following moving targets autonomously. What’s the goal of people who thin…

Recently I left an HN comment pointing out that there was a typo on Ars Technia's staff page. One copy editor had the title "Copy Editor" and the other "Copyeditor." Several days later the typo was fixed. I'm confident that it was because someone at Ars saw my comment.

I left a comment describing how I am deleting my OpenAI account. I think there's a good chance someone at OpenAI sees it, even if only aggregated into a figure in a spreadsheet. Maybe a pull quote in a report.

You do your best at the margin, have faith it will count for something in aggregate and accept that sometimes you're tilting at windmills. I know most of my breathe is wasted but I can't reliably tell which.

Re: OpenAI – How to delete your account

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Post by ozgung »

stingraycharles wrote: post #5

Why, though? What, really, does anyone envision the next decade with government + AI is going to be like? Obviously mass surveillance is already happening. Obviously the line between “human kills other human” is blurring for a long time already, eg remote operated drones. Missiles are already remotely controlled and navigating and detecting and following moving targets autonomously. What’s the goal of people who thin…

“Predictive programming“ in action. Predicting something beforehand and getting used to it should’t make a wrong thing acceptable.

Ethics is about knowing and acting right or wrong. Not about how we feel about them.

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