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OpenAI reaches deal to deploy AI models on U.S. DoW classified network

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Re: OpenAI reaches deal to deploy AI models on U.S. DoW classified network

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Post by almosthere »

techblueberry wrote: post #8

"AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clau…

Because there are only two options really, anthropic and openai. Gemini is a year behind. Gov had no more options after those two.

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Post by jkaplowitz »

m3kw9 wrote: post #17

You guys think American shouldn’t use AI in military at all isn’t understanding their counter party is absolutely all in on AI in theirs

Nobody was advocating for zero AI in the military - certainly not Anthropic. They were fine with all lawful US military use cases except for two: the mass domestic surveillance of Americans and fully autonomous weapons. Whether you agree or disagree with their particular red lines, that's quite far from them trying to keep their product out of the military.

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Post by SilverElfin »

techblueberry wrote: post #8

"AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clau…

Claude is not as ideologically willing as friends of the Trump administration are - like xAI's Grok and OpenAI's ChatGPT. And David Sacks, the AI czar, who is a PayPal mafia member and close friend of the Epstein class (Elon Musk, Peter Thiel), has been attacking Anthropic FOREVER. He views them as a woke threat to America. So all that supply chain risk and the ban from agencies is just a way of abusing power to suppress free speech.

But the most obvious reason, is that Greg Brockman - who's a founder and also the current president of OpenAI apparently, is the largest donor to the Trump MAGA PAC. I find it hard to believe that Sam Altman and the Trump administration would be so obvious about it, but I also find it hard to believe that tens of millions in donations and this kind of result can be anything but a bribe.

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Post by unyttigfjelltol »

techblueberry wrote: post #8

"AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clau…

This says OpenAI is happy with the law and DoW policy, and thinks those protections are adequate. In contrast, Anthropic seems to have imposed additional contractual guardrails, blocking apparently legal DoW use cases.

Was it a subtly different contract, or a notice of dispute? Unclear.

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Post by ismyrnow »

I suspect that Anthropic wanted the govt to ensure they would not use Claude for mass surveillance or autonomous weapons even if it does become legal in the future. OpenAI was comfortable with the agreement because it's currently illegal and they can make a public statement that they still side with Anthropic on the ethics side.

I also believe that Anthropic's CEO just didn't get along with the DoW in negotiations. So much of these big contracts comes down to relationships.

Still pretty sleazy how the govt is being so aggressive about it. I wish they would have just denied the contract and picked another vendor.

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Post by LarsDu88 »

neya wrote: post #15
techblueberry wrote: post #8

"AI safety and wide distribution of benefits are the core of our mission. Two of our most important safety principles are prohibitions on domestic mass surveillance and human responsibility for the use of force, including for autonomous weapon systems. The DoW agrees with these principles, reflects them in law and policy, and we put them into our agreement." So wait a second, the DoW let OpeAI put the exact same clau…

I get the feeling they didn't like Anthropic from the start for whatever reason and just found excuses to dump them and find an alternative provider. There's also the possibility the DoW will still have its way and this is possibly only a statement for the public. P.S I'm not political (no left/right drama), just speculative.

The question is why was it so urgent to bring this up right now. The answer is that the US Navy has carrier battle groups stationed off the coast of Iran right now.

US F22 fighter jets have been spotted on Israeli airfields by Chinese commercial satellites in the past 3 days.

A full scale strike on Iran is imminent and they want to leverage LLMs for data analysis and quite possibly automated target selection.

Literally the SkyNet scenario both researchers and frickin pop culture have warned about for years.

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Post by LarsDu88 »

LarsDu88 wrote: post #28
neya wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I get the feeling they didn't like Anthropic from the start for whatever reason and just found excuses to dump them and find an alternative provider. There's also the possibility the DoW will still have its way and this is possibly only a statement for the public. P.S I'm not political (no left/right drama), just speculative.

The question is why was it so urgent to bring this up right now. The answer is that the US Navy has carrier battle groups stationed off the coast of Iran right now. US F22 fighter jets have been spotted on Israeli airfields by Chinese commercial satellites in the past 3 days. A full scale strike on Iran is imminent and they want to leverage LLMs for data analysis and quite possibly automated target selection. Literal…

Don't know why im being down voted on this. The reality of the situation will become evident in the next 2 weeks
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