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PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Yes, the famously useless PosmarketOS. Why don't you share the list of very useful things you created instead, mono442?

Never ask a woman her age or a vibe coder to show you an useful program they've written.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Exactly, you can use it for some tasks. But why "explicitly forbid generative AI". If you use AI to make repetitive tasks less repetitive, and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards, would they notice or care? I find blanket bans inhibitive, and reeks of fear of change, rather than a real substantive stance.

They explain why in their AI policy. It's an ethical stance. Of course they wouldn't notice if there aren't clear signs of LLM-ness, but that's not the main reason why they forbid it. https://docs.postmarketos.org/policies-and-processes/develop...

Thanks for the clarification. Not that I agree with their stance (the exact same could have been said at the start of the industrial revolution) but I respect it nonetheless.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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No one is stopping you from vibe-coding a POSIX-compatible mobile OS.

Not parent commenter but this is bound to happen.

And I highly doubt iOS and Android are free from LLM assisted code at this point.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Yes, the famously useless PosmarketOS. Why don't you share the list of very useful things you created instead, mono442?

I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the famously useless PosmarketOS. Why don't you share the list of very useful things you created instead, mono442?

I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.

And as we all know, more lines of code always produces better results. That's why we call it "technical wealth".

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the famously useless PosmarketOS. Why don't you share the list of very useful things you created instead, mono442?

I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.

So do you review all that code as well?

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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as a kernel developer, I use LLMs for some tasks, but can say it is not there yet to write real kernel space code

Same. Having an LLM helps, especially when you're facing a new subsystem you're not familiar with, and trying to understand how things are done there. They still can't do the heavy duty driver work by themselves - but are good enough for basic guidance and boilerplate.

My reading of their AI statement says your kernel contributions are no longer welcome in PostmarketOS, and also, since you're encouraging others in their space to use such tools, you're in violation of their code of conduct.

This applies to the person you're replying to too.

I think their policy is poorly thought out, and that little good will come of it. At best, it'll cause drama in the project, and discourage useful contributions. It's a shame, since we desperately need an alternative to the phone duopoly.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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I do not understand why Lineage insists on waiting for eBPF back ports when PostmarketOS has a far newer kernel running on the same hardware.

AOSP patched kernels still include some features that are not in the mainline version. The LineageOS folks are working on support for mainline kernels, but AIUI it's not there yet.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

as a kernel developer, I use LLMs for some tasks, but can say it is not there yet to write real kernel space code

Exactly, you can use it for some tasks. But why "explicitly forbid generative AI". If you use AI to make repetitive tasks less repetitive, and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards, would they notice or care? I find blanket bans inhibitive, and reeks of fear of change, rather than a real substantive stance.

> and clean up any LLM-ness afterwards

That never happens. It's actually easier to write the code from scratch and avoid LLMness altogether.

Re: PostmarketOS in 2026-02: generic kernels, bans use of generative AI

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, the famously useless PosmarketOS. Why don't you share the list of very useful things you created instead, mono442?

I don't work on open source stuff but I work at a financial institution and genai has been a huge productivity boost. I can easily write 2x - 5x more code than before genai.

Is the software you're working on useful? Care to share the link so we can take a look?
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