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Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by philipallstar »

nness wrote: post #9
martiuk wrote: post #6

Why is Dyson being sued for actions taken by their suppliers? This is setting a bizarre precedent.

There were two reasons the Court of Appeal hearing held that the complaint could be heard in UK courts: 1. They relate to alleged harm caused by decisions and policies made centrally by Dyson UK companies and personnel 2. There was substantial risk that they would not be able to access justice in the Malaysian courts Both seem reasonable. The UK personnel may have engaged in an activity they knew were illegal. Foreig…

The fashion industry does feel like such a big, endless duality of incredibly wealthy people doing little difficult work and having loads of awards and shows and fun events, and factories full of people in faraway countries barely subsisting.

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Post by klelatti »

n4r9 wrote: post #3

James Dyson advocated for Brexit on the basis of supporting British industry, and shortly afterwards migrated the company HQ to Singapore.

And to prove it is possible to have a profitable vacuum cleaner manufacturing business that makes its machines in the UK - long live Henry!

https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jul/24/how-hen...

And unlike Dyson they are almost indestructible!

Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by thegreatpeter »

steve1977 wrote: post #14
direwolf20 wrote: post #2

Why do employers deny their employees toilet breaks? Do they actually believe it makes the employees more productive, or are they just cruel people?

It's a demonstration of power. Which is exactly why it needs fighting against, because these people (i.e. Dyson) must not have power.

But why only demonstrate power over 12 people and not the alleged 1200+ that work there?

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Post by UltraSane »

GaryBluto wrote: post #19
cynicalsecurity wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Employers are not always very smart. It took humanity half a millennium to realise slavery is inefficient and ditch it. Go figure.

Slavery wasn't inefficient and was highly profitable for slaveholders.

Except the slaveholders entire life revolved around managing slaves and worrying about slave revolts.

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Post by n4r9 »

klelatti wrote: post #22
n4r9 wrote: post #3

James Dyson advocated for Brexit on the basis of supporting British industry, and shortly afterwards migrated the company HQ to Singapore.

And to prove it is possible to have a profitable vacuum cleaner manufacturing business that makes its machines in the UK - long live Henry! https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jul/24/how-hen... And unlike Dyson they are almost indestructible!

Great article. Especially loved this

> “I love you,” Jess said above his cot one evening before lights out. “I love Henry,” came the reply.

Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by j16sdiz »

UltraSane wrote: post #24
GaryBluto wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slavery wasn't inefficient and was highly profitable for slaveholders.

Except the slaveholders entire life revolved around managing slaves and worrying about slave revolts.

No. If you actually read the history, many slaveholder delegates management works to slaves

Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by klelatti »

n4r9 wrote: post #25
klelatti wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And to prove it is possible to have a profitable vacuum cleaner manufacturing business that makes its machines in the UK - long live Henry! https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2021/jul/24/how-hen... And unlike Dyson they are almost indestructible!

Great article. Especially loved this > “I love you,” Jess said above his cot one evening before lights out. “I love Henry,” came the reply.

We have a pre-schooler and am happy to confirm that our Henry is a favourite member of the family.

Just as important he's sufficiently strong to withstand our boy's curiosity :)

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Post by KoolKat23 »

n4r9 wrote: post #3

James Dyson advocated for Brexit on the basis of supporting British industry, and shortly afterwards migrated the company HQ to Singapore.

I'm nearly certain he believed/believes in the Britannia Unchained folks type nonsense. Brexit, then ECHR exit, deregulate like crazy and exploit everyone and their mum. So long as GDP goes up.

Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by n4r9 »

robtherobber wrote: post #20
GaryBluto wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Slavery wasn't inefficient and was highly profitable for slaveholders.

Not contradicting the second part, but I want to emphasise that they are different things. Slavery (and capitalism) can be extremely inefficient and simultaneously wildly profitable.

Surely it's meaningless to compare the efficiency of slavery vs other systems, since your set of resources is completely different.

Re: Dyson settles forced labour suit in landmark UK case

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Post by steve1977 »

j16sdiz wrote: post #26
UltraSane wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except the slaveholders entire life revolved around managing slaves and worrying about slave revolts.

No. If you actually read the history, many slaveholder delegates management works to slaves

So not much has changed really?
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