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He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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I've heard those trailers contain 15 lbs of copper wire each.

Scrap metal and sellable parts as well. Most likely a SIM card you can get a bunch of free internet out of too.

It'd be interesting to see what endpoints they submit the data to...

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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In Canada all the police cars seem to have automated license plate readers these days.

This article explains there was a 2016 law where California won't share local police plate reader data with the feds, so they made a deal in 2024 where Caltrans (dept of transportation) will let Border Patrol pay for it themselves on roads near border crossing like San Diego County.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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This is perhaps a more common opinion than you think. Making it easy to catch bad guys is enough reason. I don't know how to effectively convince someone that the ease of law enforcement comes at the expense of liberty, which so many of the aforementioned opinion-holders also claim to be concerned about. I feel like it should be self-evident, that law enforcement and liberty are mutually exclusive, and that we have things like warrants to allow that infringement on liberty in very narrow circumstances. Dragnet surveillance is warrant-less evidence gathering.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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This is perhaps a more common opinion than you think. Making it easy to catch bad guys is enough reason. I don't know how to effectively convince someone that the ease of law enforcement comes at the expense of liberty, which so many of the aforementioned opinion-holders also claim to be concerned about. I feel like it should be self-evident, that law enforcement and liberty are mutually exclusive, and that we have t…

> This is perhaps a more common opinion than you think.

Oh, I know it's a common opinion. That's why I'm so upset about it.

> the ease of law enforcement comes at the expense of liberty, which so many of the aforementioned opinion-holders also claim to be concerned about.

Because they're convinced that because they have nothing to hide, the law will never turn against them.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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post #24

Free trailer

I'm sort of curious where the law stands on this (I am not a lawyer).

Since it has a license plate on it, it in theory displays some ownership info. Is that enough for me to say, "it's clearly not mine now"? If it didn't, does that give me any right to take something off a public roadway?

Obviously, I know that the letter of the law, and what actually will be enforced, are two different things. Taking something that belongs to CBP would almost definitely be prosecuted in this case, regardless of whether it's legally fair game to do so.

It appears that I can't direct-link to it, but look up case 19S-CR-00528 on public.courts.in.gov - this was a case in which the Supreme Court of Indiana overturned an earlier ruling that removing a GPS monitoring device from your own car, when you weren't aware it was there, was theft.

Re: He saw an abandoned trailer, then uncovered a surveillance network

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post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Scrap metal and sellable parts as well. Most likely a SIM card you can get a bunch of free internet out of too.

won't they able able to track you down if you start using the SIM though?

They can track the locations where you use that card, and the locations where you use the phone the card was in, before and after the card was in it.

Take this information as you will.

ETA: "use" means "have a battery inserted"

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