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Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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Re: Men in their 50s may be aging faster due to toxic 'forever chemicals'

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Post by protonbob »

ifwinterco wrote: post #16
gryzzly wrote: post #4

So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

You don’t have to completely avoid it, reducing exposure is helpful. It’s not hard to get rid of it in your own home where you probably spend most of your time and eat most of your meals.

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Post by analog31 »

jazz9k wrote: post #18
kstenerud wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They still are. Measles was on the road to being eradicated until 10 years ago.

The part you are leaving out is that illegals (now in the millions), living in the US are almost never vaccinated for measles.

Vaccinate them. That's a policy failure.

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Post by ricardo81 »

throwup238 wrote: post #14
ricardo81 wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

A necessary (?) part of progress IMO. Environmental hazards have been a thing for a lot longer too. Settlements used to be covered in smog due to coal fires for example. Part of the environmental/emissions argument from developing countries is about past emissions by developed countries. I think it's a fair argument to say given these sacrifices made by past generations in industrialised countries + the benefit of de…

> Settlements used to be covered in smog due to coal fires for example. London first tried to ban burning coal within the city in 1306 due to the air quality.

That long ago. Surely that helped identify it as a problem even though the science behind it would have been lacking.

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Post by SkyeCA »

ifwinterco wrote: post #16
gryzzly wrote: post #4

So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

Teflon is so useful when cooking that I'm going to use it until the moment it gets banned regardless of health impacts.

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Post by mmcgaha »

cmrdporcupine wrote: post #13
hurubaw wrote: post #6

People born before the 1980 are also of significantly lower IQ up to a 7-8 points due to leaded gas use. The boomers and gen X really did a number on themselves with environmental hazards.

Us GenXers didn't do this to ourselves. Boomers (and their parents) did it to us. I was born '74. Alberta, Canada. I remember people raising a huge stink about "guvmint' interference" when leaded gasoline was banned and when seatbelt use became mandatory. And don't even get started about cigarettes and mandatory separate smoking areas at restaurants etc. "Liberty" and "freedom" were concepts substantially abused and…

I have no concern for young generations wanting to blame our age group. The day will come soon that their generation is pointed at for not solving the complex problems of their day. Now if they will show me the same grace when I start a story with "back in my day" we will all get along.

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Post by ehnto »

perch56 wrote: post #8
hurubaw wrote: post #6

People born before the 1980 are also of significantly lower IQ up to a 7-8 points due to leaded gas use. The boomers and gen X really did a number on themselves with environmental hazards.

In countries that phased out lead later, even early Millennials faced similar or worse childhood exposure. It’s a global generational story, just with different timelines by country. As a personal example, Romania only phased out leaded gasoline at the end of 2004.

Some places still allow it in civil aviation too.

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Post by asimovfan »

SkyeCA wrote: post #24
ifwinterco wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

Teflon is so useful when cooking that I'm going to use it until the moment it gets banned regardless of health impacts.

If you mean just a skillet / frying pan, i found that a cast iron pan is much better (for non stick), have been using a €10 one for about three years now. You can ignore all warnings about keeping it oiled etc. They also have glass air fryers now (borosilicate glass, quite durable). You can scrub both with a steel sponge.

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Post by bilekas »

ifwinterco wrote: post #16
gryzzly wrote: post #4

So hard to believe all the skiers and snowboarders were putting PFAS as wax just until couple years ago. Also in Germany, you can buy "permanent baking paper" that is pure PTFE without a problem, which is insane to me.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

PFOA was used previously, but now it's changed to PTFE, this is supposedly less harmful, but its considered perfectly fine (afaik) as long as the temperatures dont exceed 260°C.. Which at that stage you're probably using the wrong tool.. Maybe some Iron cast skillet or something ?

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Post by hyperbovine »

SkyeCA wrote: post #24
ifwinterco wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Teflon pans are still legal in every country in the world and used in every restaurant and food preparation industry. It's basically impossible to avoid this stuff unless you cook all of your meals from scratch and never eat out anywhere

Teflon is so useful when cooking that I'm going to use it until the moment it gets banned regardless of health impacts.

Cooking with it at normal fry pan temperatures (350-400f) is safe, this has been repeatedly confirmed in experiments, some not even funded by DuPont. Don’t do crazy things like really high temp searing and don’t use metal utensils that cause the coating to flake off. Also if you’re really concerned ceramic nonstick + oil has come a long way. And I should add the the most nonstick pan I own is actually a properly seasoned carbon steel wok, yes it’s really possible if you know what you’re doing.
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