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Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by lukifer »

srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

I have the same habit, but the opposite experience: that Firefox gobbles RAM+CPU and Chrome handles them elegantly. (Admittedly, I haven't given FF a new chance in about a year.)

Was there a particular upgrade that addressed process management and/or memory leaks? I also wonder if it's an OS thing (I'm on OS X).

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by Dylan16807 »

hnriot wrote: post #15
srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

I think "months" has to be an exaggeration, I don't think I've had ff last months without require being restarted. I could imagine weeks, but not months. (FF 16/linux)

Restarting doesn't get rid of tabs.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by tarr11 »

I wonder how many people use FF exclusively. This is what breaks all these fancy bookmarking apps for me. I use Chrome, FF, Safari, even IE, depending on what computer I am on.

If I had to standardize on a single browser for the bookmarks, I'd choose Chrome.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by ZenoArrow »

lukifer wrote: post #21
srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

I have the same habit, but the opposite experience: that Firefox gobbles RAM+CPU and Chrome handles them elegantly. (Admittedly, I haven't given FF a new chance in about a year.) Was there a particular upgrade that addressed process management and/or memory leaks? I also wonder if it's an OS thing (I'm on OS X).

"Was there a particular upgrade that addressed process management and/or memory leaks? I also wonder if it's an OS thing (I'm on OS X)."

I'm on Windows 7, and in my experience the memory issues in Firefox haven't been completely resolved yet (though the Mozilla team are actively working on it). However, as a workaround I have found the Memory Fox add-on useful: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/memory-fox/

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by h2s »

Reasons why I bookmark pages:

    1. I meant to type Ctrl+W and missed slightly
    2. I meant to type Ctrl+F and missed slightly  
    3. I meant to type Ctrl+C and missed slightly
My bookmarks are a mish-mash of random pages on which I accidentally pressed Ctrl+D, nothing more. I think I'm a particularly anomalous edge case on this particular issue because as a web developer I tend to flit around between browsers constantly so no single-vendor syncing service is ever going to be useful to me.

I try to curb what I call my "data hoarding" tendencies too. If I start bookmarking things for real, I tend to fall into a harmful pattern of bookmarking too many things. Next I start fretting over whether they're organised correctly, whether they're named clearly and so on. I've found it's better for my productivity if I just rely on the address bar autocompletion.

It's always cool to read about this kind of usability work though. Mozilla is still king in my book!

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by kanzure »

srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

> I have been asked to defend my habit many times, so here it is: I use open tabs as a volatile bookmark.

There's a Firefox extension called "toomanytabs" that tries to improve the "volatile bookmark" experience. Frankly, I think it should be called "notenoughtabs".

Btw, I have found that Opera can reliably handle 400+ open tabs simultaneously. The downside is that it's not Firefox. And Chrome took out vertical tabs in 2008 or something. bleh.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by timeuser »

lukifer wrote: post #21
srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

I have the same habit, but the opposite experience: that Firefox gobbles RAM+CPU and Chrome handles them elegantly. (Admittedly, I haven't given FF a new chance in about a year.) Was there a particular upgrade that addressed process management and/or memory leaks? I also wonder if it's an OS thing (I'm on OS X).

Firefox on OS X is remarkably better in the past year. I ditched Chrome many months ago because Firefox now is better with memory and remaining quick and responsive than Chrome for me on OS X.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by Bjartr »

kanzure wrote: post #26
srean wrote: post #12

I am one of the worst offenders of the "keep the tabs open variety". I have several hundreds of them open for months on end. For this rather unusual browsing habit, no other browser other than FF works for me. FF does fine even on my 512MB Pentium-M laptop, Chrome for instance will make such a box unusable . Am somewhat relieved/piqued to see that this behavior is not unique. I have been asked to defend my habit many…

> I have been asked to defend my habit many times, so here it is: I use open tabs as a volatile bookmark. There's a Firefox extension called "toomanytabs" that tries to improve the "volatile bookmark" experience. Frankly, I think it should be called "notenoughtabs". Btw, I have found that Opera can reliably handle 400+ open tabs simultaneously. The downside is that it's not Firefox. And Chrome took out vertical tabs…

FYI, Chrome now has stacked tabs and tab grouping.

Re: Mozilla UX: Save For Later (why bookmarks are broken and how to fix it)

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Post by sparkie »

kule wrote: post #13

Generally I only bookmark stuff that's going to be useful to me at a later date. What I'd really like is for the bookmark to also cache the page locally so that even if I click the bookmark at a later date and the site has gone I can still read what was on the page.

http://www.zotero.org/ can do this. It can make a snapshot of the page, and also a copy of all attachments on it (especially useful for pdfs, images etc.)
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