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Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

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Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#21

If grok knew that it must have been publically available information.

But should that information ever have been publicly available? Someone else here linked to another instagram account publishing the same data, but that sure sounds like she didn't put it out there.

It's like saying that someone publishing your bank account balance or nude photos is fine, because someone once stole that data and released it on the internet.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#23

If grok knew that it must have been publically available information.

But should that information ever have been publicly available? Someone else here linked to another instagram account publishing the same data, but that sure sounds like she didn't put it out there. It's like saying that someone publishing your bank account balance or nude photos is fine, because someone once stole that data and released it on the internet.

No, it's not. You assume it was stolen, while it wasn't implied in that comment. They simply stated that the data have been put publicly at some point or another.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#24
post #5

If grok knew that it must have been publically available information.

Indeed. .

Are you so fundamentally limited that you can't see the difference between "it's somewhere on the internet if you look very hard" and "a chatbot ingested petabytes of data and you can't ever escape it anymore", or is it just misogyny and hating sex workers ?

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#25
post #6

For Grok’s sake you hope this is data that was public, something that was buried deep that it has surfaced. It’s a shame transparency is so poor here. A simple grep of the training data would likely give a clear explanation of where this has come from.

Grokipedia (an online encyclopedia run by xAI and steered by Grok) lists a few sources for it directly, even in old copies of the entry https://web.archive.org/web/20251225113339/https://grokipedi...

Grok shouldn't be serving this kind of information IMO, and it's yet another serial example of xAI just not caring about real problems, but the even bigger crime is these services she is paying thousands to seem to have done jack other than give a false sense of security while happily taking their money. A time bound Google search and verification of pages from the Wayback Machine confirms this information has been all over social media and other sites constantly for the last decade.

If I were cynical I'd say this was just a publicity stunt, but the truth is probably really just sad all around: lack of ability to keep such things private, leechers making people think you can just pay and information disappears from the internet, Grok amplifying the problem by being run by people who don't really care about what it does...

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#26
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. .

Are you so fundamentally limited that you can't see the difference between "it's somewhere on the internet if you look very hard" and "a chatbot ingested petabytes of data and you can't ever escape it anymore", or is it just misogyny and hating sex workers ?

The same has played out with search engines like google for the last 20 odd years.

If some random person didn't like you they couldn't just casually (in 5 minutes) dredge up every controversial thing you ever said of that conviction from 15 years ago.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#27
post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed. .

Are you so fundamentally limited that you can't see the difference between "it's somewhere on the internet if you look very hard" and "a chatbot ingested petabytes of data and you can't ever escape it anymore", or is it just misogyny and hating sex workers ?

You shouldn't be getting downvoted for this. I think it's a combination of a large amount of people that just can't wrap their heads around potential for damage done until it happens to them personally, or maybe to a friend or loved one, and the sex work angle of them thinking "well it was public to begin with."

A lot of this new technology powers abuse on a scale that just wasn't possible before. Things like doxxing/revenge porn were very real threats with life changing consequences but in many cases the worst of it would pass and any memory of it would remain long buried on some faraway corner of the internet no one would likely see again.

A real human would have to sit down and spend hours and hours trying to track down dirt that may not even exist, it represented a huge investment in every target. Now someone can just take a picture of your face from just about any angle and dredge up anything they want at a touch of a button.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#29

>I've been paying for data removal services for like, at least six years now Do such services actually work? The internet is forever.

Kind of? They can get you off the first page of Google, which is often enough to keep employers from seeing it.

Re: Grok Exposed a Porn Performer's Legal Name and Birthdate–Without Being Asked

#30

>I've been paying for data removal services for like, at least six years now Do such services actually work? The internet is forever.

Kind of? They can get you off the first page of Google, which is often enough to keep employers from seeing it.

Unless they ask grok!
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