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There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Can’t wait for trump and his gestapo to deport the entirety of nasa for telling the truth

Why does NASA even have to do this? Build some cool rockets and get us to mars.

Living on Mars long-term is a practical impossibility. Certainly much, much harder than living on even a climate-changed Earth.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Everyone who can hear this has already heard it. Those who continue to pretend it is not happening are either deliberately deceptive so they can continue to make money from fossil fuels or unable to change their minds when faced by evidence due to identity politics.

My impression is that almost no one denies the warming itself, just the link to greenhouse gasses. That link is unfortunately much harder to prove than rising temperatures by itself. The proof is there nonetheless, but it's easier to cast doubt on it, and that's what certain groups have been doing.

But POTUS 5 months ago:

"If you look back years ago in the 1920s and the 1930s, they said global cooling will kill the world. We have to do something. Then they said global warming will kill the world, but then it started getting cooler. So now they just call it climate change because that way they can't miss. Climate change because if it goes higher or lower, whatever the hell happens, there's climate change. It's the greatest con job ever perpetrated on the world, in my opinion. Climate change, no matter what happens, you're involved in that. No more global warming, no more global cooling. All of these predictions made by the United Nations and many others, often for bad reasons, were wrong. They were made by stupid people that have cost their country's fortunes and given those same countries no chance for success."

https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-...

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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So what are we going to do about China?

A troll response I presume. Or perhaps sarcasm without the indicator.

Not a troll comment. China produces as much or more CO2 as much as the next 5 countries combined.

It's logical to start with the king of greenhouse emissions if you want to stop global warming.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've seen the full-court denial: - it's not warming, or not significantly - if it's warming, it's not because of humans, (or) - if it's warming, it's beneficial - if it's warming because of humans and that's bad, there's nothing we can do about it ETA: honorary mention for "what about China?" People I've argued about this with will switch interchangeably between these. Press them hard enough on one issue, and they'll…

Or "Why does 2 degrees matter?" Because when were 4 degrees cooler, NYC was under 1000 feet of ice. We really don't want to find out what 4 degrees hotter is like.

Wait really? 1000 feet is insane.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A troll response I presume. Or perhaps sarcasm without the indicator.

Not a troll comment. China produces as much or more CO2 as much as the next 5 countries combined. It's logical to start with the king of greenhouse emissions if you want to stop global warming.

China is rapidly going green.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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I've shifted my mindset to abandon this idea that humanity will survive forever, or that we should strive to live as long as we can. Intelligence is a scarcity and it cannot overcome the majority of people that are incredibly stupid or ignorant. So accepting that we are doomed relieves some of the stress. I won't have children to worry about their future, either. I still live my life in such a way that minimizes my i…

Ultimately I think it will be a self correcting problem, but there is going to be an extremely long period of absolute hell. Global warming is eventually going to cause food and water scarcity on a level that will wipe out a huge percentage of the Earths population. Then the Earth will recover from there being fewer humans. If in 3000 years we discover humans were completely wiped out to the last person I would be pr…

Toba catastrophe theory:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Youngest_Toba_eruption#Toba_ca...

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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I've shifted my mindset to abandon this idea that humanity will survive forever, or that we should strive to live as long as we can. Intelligence is a scarcity and it cannot overcome the majority of people that are incredibly stupid or ignorant. So accepting that we are doomed relieves some of the stress. I won't have children to worry about their future, either. I still live my life in such a way that minimizes my i…

Humans won’t get wiped out, not by global warming atleast. It’s just going to suck and a lot of us will die.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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I've shifted my mindset to abandon this idea that humanity will survive forever, or that we should strive to live as long as we can. Intelligence is a scarcity and it cannot overcome the majority of people that are incredibly stupid or ignorant. So accepting that we are doomed relieves some of the stress. I won't have children to worry about their future, either. I still live my life in such a way that minimizes my i…

Ultimately I think it will be a self correcting problem, but there is going to be an extremely long period of absolute hell. Global warming is eventually going to cause food and water scarcity on a level that will wipe out a huge percentage of the Earths population. Then the Earth will recover from there being fewer humans. If in 3000 years we discover humans were completely wiped out to the last person I would be pr…

Agree, this is how excesses always get corrected in nature.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

A troll response I presume. Or perhaps sarcasm without the indicator.

Not a troll comment. China produces as much or more CO2 as much as the next 5 countries combined. It's logical to start with the king of greenhouse emissions if you want to stop global warming.

There is no need for ordering right? All countries can start acting at the same time.

Re: There is unequivocal evidence that Earth is warming (2024)

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I wonder if we should move beyond this messaging. It’s well known to the smart half of the population that climate change is happening. There is apparently some debate on the cause. But this point is mostly irrelevant, it is problem-oriented thinking. By keeping the conversation in the problem-realm you invite troglodytes into the conversation to insert their bullshit. Instead, if we move forward with “presumption of truth” solutions-based messaging, we can start to talk about what we’re going to do.

Climate control is something more people will be on board with compared to trying to have a conversation about climate science to a person who didn’t graduate high school.

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