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Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

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Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#21
In the examples, there is discrepancy between the source, the diagram, the pieces diagram, and the 3D test each. As someone who is professionally and personally interested in grammars and textiles, I appreciate the fantasy and the vibe of the project but it does not seem to be a functioning demo of anything coherent.

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech person - there's only one contributor, it's less than 48 hours old, and appears to be primarily vibe coded with the assistance of Claude Code. No mentions of types of stitches even though it's crucial to understanding how a garment is made. I wonder too if this grammar can represent a glove made from a single strand of yarn.

If I understand what you mean, that's more in the realm of knitting which does already have several rigorous notations in common use. This is for pattern drafting, which assumes knit or woven fabric as the raw material for the garment construction, along with the pattern. That said it still does not seem suitable for this task based on my experience sewing from and modifying patterns.

Stitches are load-bearing, so specifying a bartack or a flatlock seems pretty important to unambiguously specifying a garment. Along the same lines, I don't see a way to specify hardware that isn't for closures, e.g. the rivets used to reinforce denim pockets.

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If I understand what you mean, that's more in the realm of knitting which does already have several rigorous notations in common use. This is for pattern drafting, which assumes knit or woven fabric as the raw material for the garment construction, along with the pattern. That said it still does not seem suitable for this task based on my experience sewing from and modifying patterns.

Stitches are load-bearing, so specifying a bartack or a flatlock seems pretty important to unambiguously specifying a garment. Along the same lines, I don't see a way to specify hardware that isn't for closures, e.g. the rivets used to reinforce denim pockets.

I know, I make clothes too. Probably unlike the creator of this thing.

But the comment I was responding to seemed to be using "stitch" in the way knitters use it, not the way sewists use it. No pattern drafting system can represent the stitches necessary to create a panel of knit fabric, that's simply not the level of abstraction they work at.

This thing isn't good but not for the reason of being unable to represent a one-strand mitten or whatever, which is what I think they were getting at.

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#25

For another "clothing patterns as code" approach, see https://freesewing.dev/ - also with a more complete UI and editor.

This looks interesting but I’m struggling to find any examples of what this actually entails/produces/looks like. Most of the guides are about setting up your environment, checking out code, etc.

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stitches are load-bearing, so specifying a bartack or a flatlock seems pretty important to unambiguously specifying a garment. Along the same lines, I don't see a way to specify hardware that isn't for closures, e.g. the rivets used to reinforce denim pockets.

I know, I make clothes too. Probably unlike the creator of this thing. But the comment I was responding to seemed to be using "stitch" in the way knitters use it, not the way sewists use it. No pattern drafting system can represent the stitches necessary to create a panel of knit fabric, that's simply not the level of abstraction they work at. This thing isn't good but not for the reason of being unable to represent…

Is this even able to specify patterns? Or is it just how to assemble the pieces of cut cloth?

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Tech person - there's only one contributor, it's less than 48 hours old, and appears to be primarily vibe coded with the assistance of Claude Code. No mentions of types of stitches even though it's crucial to understanding how a garment is made. I wonder too if this grammar can represent a glove made from a single strand of yarn.

If I understand what you mean, that's more in the realm of knitting which does already have several rigorous notations in common use. This is for pattern drafting, which assumes knit or woven fabric as the raw material for the garment construction, along with the pattern. That said it still does not seem suitable for this task based on my experience sewing from and modifying patterns.

It looks like it's missing so much that you'd need even to hand-sew a pattern at home. There's no mention of interfaces or bindings.

This looks more like something for making clothing as digital content - e.g. Marvellous Designer. Possibly more straightforward even.

Edit: found interfacing. It calls it "interlining".

Re: Garment Notation Language: Formal descriptive language for clothing construction

#30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Stitches are load-bearing, so specifying a bartack or a flatlock seems pretty important to unambiguously specifying a garment. Along the same lines, I don't see a way to specify hardware that isn't for closures, e.g. the rivets used to reinforce denim pockets.

I know, I make clothes too. Probably unlike the creator of this thing. But the comment I was responding to seemed to be using "stitch" in the way knitters use it, not the way sewists use it. No pattern drafting system can represent the stitches necessary to create a panel of knit fabric, that's simply not the level of abstraction they work at. This thing isn't good but not for the reason of being unable to represent…

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