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Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by rkangel »

Aurornis wrote: post #15

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemie…

Which step in this logic do you not accept?

When profit for a company is in conflict with human good, regulation is needed (e.g. health and safety rules)

Facebook causes harm, disproportionately so for younger people

Meta is aware of this, but due to a profit motive does not take serious steps to do anything about it (only token efforts)

Meta (and other social media) needs regulation

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by ifyoubuildit »

llm_nerd wrote: post #14
cies wrote: post #7

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No, he did not, and you're repeating some misinformation bit of nonsense that you find in anti-vax ignorance echo chambers. When he first learned about mRNA vaccines he misunderstood them and was concerned about vaccines "basically modifying people's DNA and RNA to directly encode in a person's DNA and RNA basically the ability to produce those antibodies". This is technically ignorant to the point of being nonsensic…

> Every single plutocrat that pulls the levers that get you riled on your march to becoming Soylent Green got the vaccines. Every single power broker got the vaccines

I'm not saying you're wrong, but I am curious how you came to know this so confidently.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by raincole »

> > The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act

Really?

Even if we ignore all the implication of censorship and surveillance state, lying to the congress is already a crime. It's already regulated. If he can get away with it why another act would be different?

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by blacklion »

raincole wrote: post #23

> > The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Really? Even if we ignore all the implication of censorship and surveillance state, lying to the congress is already a crime. It's already regulated. If he can get away with it why another act would be different?

Yes, it is what always puzzles me: we have regulations, they don't work because everybody can find loopholes in them, or enforcement is not strict, but lets add more regulations instead of really implementing previous ones. It is everywhere.

More and more layers of regulations which don't work, not enforceable or nobody care to enforce them, but lets add more in same vein.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by mrsssnake »

Aurornis wrote: post #15

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemie…

The only way to get rid of domestic abusers in your neighbor is to detonate an atomic bomb at the town center.

Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by [deleted] »

1over137 wrote: post #12
mystraline wrote: post #9

And we *know* why, because of billionaire. But lying in Congress IS perjury. He should be in jail for contempt, and then then personally tried for perjury. Its a felony with punishment up to 5 years.

But we're talking about the USA here. Was such a thing ever done to someone of analogous stature in history?

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Re: Mark Zuckerberg Lied to Congress. We Can't Trust His Testimony

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Post by blululu »

rkangel wrote: post #21
Aurornis wrote: post #15

> The only way to outlaw Meta’s dangerous and egregious behavior is to pass legislation, like the Kids Online Safety Act Just last week there was uproar because Discord was going to require age verification to join adult themed servers and bypass content filters. This is how people are getting baited into inviting these restrictions and regulations into their services: By believing it’s necessary to hurt their enemie…

Which step in this logic do you not accept? When profit for a company is in conflict with human good, regulation is needed (e.g. health and safety rules) Facebook causes harm, disproportionately so for younger people Meta is aware of this, but due to a profit motive does not take serious steps to do anything about it (only token efforts) Meta (and other social media) needs regulation

As the sister comment to this makes clear: regulation is needed in this area but that specific bill has a ton of problems. We should rewrite it and remove the more privacy infringing aspects.
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