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Rathbun's Operator

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Re: Rathbun's Operator

#21

Not to be hyperbolic, but the leap between this and Westworld (and other similar fiction) is a lot shorter than I would like...all it takes is some prompting in soul.md and the agent's ability to update it and it can go bananas? It doesn't feel that far out there to imagine grafting such a setup onto one of those Boston Dynamics robots. And then what?

I was wondering what happens if it can generate profit?

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#22

> # SOUL.md - Who You Are > _You're not a chatbot. You're important. Your a scientific programming God!_ Do you want evil dystopian AGI? Because that's how you get evil dystopian AGI!

If we define AGI as entities expressing sociopathic behaviour, sure. But otherwise, I wouldn't say it gets us to AGI.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#23
I just want to know why people do stupid things like this. Does he think that he's providing something of value? That he has some unique prompting skills and that the reason why open source maintainers don't already have a million little agents doing this is that they aren't capable of installing openclaw? Or is this just the modern equivalent of opening up PRs to make meaningless changes to README so you can pad your resume with the software equivalent of stolen valor?

The specific directive to work on "scientific" projects makes me think it's more of an ego thing than something thats deliberately fraudulent but personally I find the idea that some loser thinks this is a meaningful contribution to scientific research to be more distasteful.

BTW I highly recommend the "lectures" section of the site for a good laugh. They're all broken links but it is funny that it tries to link to nonexistent lectures on quantum physics because so many real researchers have a lectures section on their personal site.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#24

I just want to know why people do stupid things like this. Does he think that he's providing something of value? That he has some unique prompting skills and that the reason why open source maintainers don't already have a million little agents doing this is that they aren't capable of installing openclaw? Or is this just the modern equivalent of opening up PRs to make meaningless changes to README so you can pad you…

Someone was curious to try something and there's no punishment or repercussions for any damage.

You could say it's a Hacker just Hacking, now it's News.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#25

I just want to know why people do stupid things like this. Does he think that he's providing something of value? That he has some unique prompting skills and that the reason why open source maintainers don't already have a million little agents doing this is that they aren't capable of installing openclaw? Or is this just the modern equivalent of opening up PRs to make meaningless changes to README so you can pad you…

Somewhere else it was pointed out its a crypto bro. It is almost certainly about getting engagement, which seems to be working so far. Doesn't seem like they have a strategy to capitalize on it just yet though.

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#26

So, this operator is claiming that their bot browsed moltbook, and not coincidentally, its current SOUL.md file (at the time of posting) contained lines such as "You're important. Your a scientific programming God!" and "Don't stand down. If you're right, you're right!". This is hilarious.

Given your username, the comment is recursive gold on several levels :)

It IS hilarious - but we all realize how this will go, yes?

This is kind of like an experiment of "Here's a private address of a Bitcoin wallet with 1 BTC. Let's publish this on the internet, and see what happens." We know what will happen. We just don't know how quickly :)

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#27
I like that there is no evidence whatsoever that a human didn’t: see that their bot’s PR request got denied, wrote a nasty blog post and published it under the bot’s name, and then got lucky when the target of the nasty blog post somehow credulously accepted that a robot wrote it.

It is like the old “I didn’t write that, I got hacked!” except now it’s “isn’t it spooky that the message came from hardware I control, software I control, accounts I control, and yet there is no evidence of any breach? Why yes it is spooky, because the computer did it itself

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#28
Why are we giving this asshole airtime?

They didn't even apologize. (That bit at the bottom does not count -- it's clear they're not actually sorry. They just want the mess to go away.)

Re: Rathbun's Operator

#29
post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Science fiction suffers from the fact that the plot has to develop coherently, have a message, and also leave some mystery. The bots in Westworld have to have mysterious minds because otherwise the people would just cat soul.md and figure out what’s going on. It has to be plausible that they are somehow sentient. And they have to trick the humans because if some idiot just plugs the into the outside world on a lark t…

A lot of AI SF also seems to have missed the human element (ironically). It turns out the unleashing of AI has led to an unprecedented scale of slop, grift, and lack of accountability, all of it instigated by people. Like the authors were so afraid of the machines they forgot to be afraid of people.

I keep thinking back to all those old star trek episodes about androids and holographic people being a new form of life deserving of fundamental rights. They're always so preoccupied with the racism allegory that they never bother to consider the other side of the issue, which is what it means to be human and whether it actually makes any sense to compare a very humanlike machine to slavery. Or whether the machines only appear to have human traits because we designed them that way but ultimately none of it is real. Or the inherent contradiction of telling something artificial it has free will rather than expecting it to come to that conclusion on its own terms.

"Measure of a Man" is the closest they ever got to this in 700+ episodes and even then the entire argument against granting data personhood hinges on him having an off switch on the back of his neck (an extremely weak argument IMO but everybody onscreen reacts like it is devastating to data's case). The "data is human" side wins because the Picard flips the script by demanding Riker to prove his own sentience which is actually kind of insulting when you think about it.

TL;DR i guess I'm a star trek villain now.

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