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"I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by wat10000 »

lenerdenator wrote: post #11
quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

> The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any internal party member who causes consumer prices to raise substantially--which they would have to do in order to support American workers creating products rather than our offshored counterparts. Currently, the head of the party is raising and lowering ta…

He is able to do so only to the extent that he can convince them that prices aren't rising, or he's not causing it.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by lenerdenator »

wat10000 wrote: post #21
lenerdenator wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any internal party member who causes consumer prices to raise substantially--which they would have to do in order to support American workers creating products rather than our offshored counterparts. Currently, the head of the party is raising and lowering ta…

He is able to do so only to the extent that he can convince them that prices aren't rising, or he's not causing it.

He's able to do that.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by givemeethekeys »

Let this be a lesson. If you're dumb enough to say "how high?" when they ask you to jump, you will always get steamrolled. Always!

This poor fellow talks about what happened to him as if it's something new. This form of outsourcing has been exploited ever since the internet became fast enough!

If anything, it's possible that AI will result in all those Indian offices being shut down.

Don't work harder than your boss. Find a leader who is worth following.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by wat10000 »

lenerdenator wrote: post #22
wat10000 wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is able to do so only to the extent that he can convince them that prices aren't rising, or he's not causing it.

He's able to do that.

For now. It remains to be seen how long it will last.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by llmslave »

I worked there a long time ago. Indian VPs were taking kickbacks from consulting firms to hire their devs, it was an open secret. Whole divisions of the company are 95% Indian.

I wont expose the group here, but there's a broad network of technology directors from Amex, that have all been hiring and promoting eachother for 20 years. Very tight nit networks of nepotism, in some cases, brother and sister working together

All that really matters is the Amex brand, and so all the tech was considered back office, and unimportant.

Also, once a company enters some kind of monopoly status, very little matters in the quality of their product.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by spwa4 »

That pretty much describes Indian work culture/ethic. Let's say "aggressive" work hours, and you just let your manager claim whatever he wants and agree with it, against everyone. "Yes", "Yes, sir".

And then, yeah, when the time comes that the work needs to be delivered, odds of it actually being done, let's say 50/50 at best.

Does your manager even want to know the truth? Mine does, but that's only the case because I changed managers 4 times before I found one that I can reasonably believe tells the truth to his superiors.

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by epolanski »

recursivedoubts wrote: post #9
epolanski wrote: post #5

That's how capitalism works, eventually everything gets moved where it's more efficient. Obviously, time and time again has proven that outsourcing is not always more efficient.

So then that's not how capitalism works, is it?

Why wouldn't it?

Re: "I Was a Director at Amex When They Started Replacing Us with $30K Workers" [video]

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Post by gorbachev »

stronglikedan wrote: post #20
quacked wrote: post #4

The two American political parties are so perfectly shielded by their own ideological blinders to avoid any possibility of national protectionism against offshoring and outsourcing that I don't think there will ever be any kind of movement against this. The conservative base is unfriendly to foreigners and foreign cultures, and claims to prefer American-made goods and services, but will immediately guillotine any int…

In my opinion, it's because the two party divide has reached the point of extremism on both sides, and extremists act on emotion rather than logic or reason. Up until a couple of decades ago, they both did a good job of keeping their more extreme members out of sight and mind. Now they're embracing and amplifying them.

It's not extremism. It's plain old American capitalism.

Both parties are being funded by the same people, so both parties play ball with the same set of funders.

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