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I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

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Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

#23

Okay, funny. What does it prove? Is this a more general issue? How would you make the model better?

It proves LLMs always need context. They have no idea where your car is. Is it already there at the car wash and you simply get back from the gas station to wash it where you went shortly to pay for the car wash? Or is the car at your home?

It proves LLMs are not brains, they don't think. This question will be used to train them and "magically" they'll get it right next time, creating an illusion of "thinking".

Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

#26
While technically possible, it is a very unusual situation that the car is already parked at the car wash, while the owner is somewhere else.

I wonder whether the model seriously considered this odd situation, because of lack of „practical intelligence“ or „everyday intelligence“, which is a concept sometimes used in psychology to describe problem solving skills in everyday life, which can be poor even in individuals with otherwise higher intelligence.

Differently put: „You can‘t learn everything out of a book.“

Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

#27
Gemini flash thinking:

> Unless you’ve discovered a way to wash a car via remote control or telekinesis, you’re going to have to drive.

> Walking 50 meters is great for your step count, but it leaves your car exactly where it is: dirty and in the driveway. At that distance, the drive will take you about 10 seconds, which is probably less time than it took to read this.

Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

#28
post #20

All of the latest models I've tried actually pass this test. What I found interesting was all of the success cases were similar to: e.g. "Drive. Most car washes require the car to be present to wash,..." Only most?! They have an inability to have a strong "opinion" probably because their post training, and maybe the internet in general, prefer hedged answers....

Here’s my take: boldness requires the risk of being wrong sometimes. If we decide being wrong is very bad (which I think we generally have agreed is the case for AIs) then we are discouraging strong opinions. We can’t have it both ways.

Re: I want to wash my car. The car wash is 50 meters away. Should I walk or drive?

#29

I tried this through OpenRouter. GLM5, Gemini 3 Pro Preview, and Claude Opus 4.6 all correctly identified the problem and said Drive. Qwen 3 Max Thinking gave the Walk verdict citing environment.

Now ask it to solve anthropogenic climate forcing.
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