Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
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Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
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Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#23Meaning they’ll wait until about June and then quietly roll it out
Yep. Anyone got alternatives? I love the convenience of a video doorbell but I really really would like to not help the police or ICE or anyone else for that matter unless I decide it's a good idea.
you can use a company that is self hosted like Unifi and have complete control over your data, still have remote access, and not pay a subscription. “self hosted” scares people off but its literally a box you plug in and forget about. Pretty trivial.
I dont understand why anyone chooses Ring when the costs of Unifi are so much better.
The ring app also sucks imo and all their hardware is quite slow.
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#24Earlier quoted context omitted.
Can you elaborate? This is interesting
I worked across several facilities and obviously cannot talk specifics about those. It is public knowledge that one of them housed a large metro area's main ISP "meet-me room." During Snowden revelations I'd already been apprenticing for years; nothing Edward documented surprised me . I'd literally walk around our 500,000sqft elevated floors knodding my head [none of this exists, officially] . ---- Nothing is as it s…
Yeah well aware of that stuff here. Two companies I worked at had entirely airgapped infrastructure because they knew the adversarial situation wasn't winnable. Everything was checked for implants at goods in. It's shocking some of the shit that goes on.
I run grey man where I can. Stuff that's private stays private. Paper and physical security is still good.
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#25“Canceled” for now. Maybe it was just a video, they’ll continue with the “quiet” development and slowly launch it
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#26This is a temporary rollback while there’s a choice to speak against it. Cloud connected doorbells must die as well as dragnet surveillance.
Agreed, but this would then inconvenience millions of non-techies.
Could a solution be forcing Amazon (and Google and Flock and...) to open their backend software either for self-hosting or for running on somebody else's "cloud"? So subscribing to such a device isn't that different from getting web hosting from Dreamhost or Hetzner?
Maybe there's a host or IP field in the settings that users can easily change?
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#27Meaning they’ll wait until about June and then quietly roll it out
Yep. Anyone got alternatives? I love the convenience of a video doorbell but I really really would like to not help the police or ICE or anyone else for that matter unless I decide it's a good idea.
I use Amcrest's AD410. I don't pay for their cloud, have my own NVR, and can access them through Wireguard if I'm out of the house.
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#28Meaning they’ll wait until about June and then quietly roll it out
Yep. Anyone got alternatives? I love the convenience of a video doorbell but I really really would like to not help the police or ICE or anyone else for that matter unless I decide it's a good idea.
Got the UniFi Doorbell from Ubiquiti and I'm really happy with it. It's hooked up to my Dream Machine, records video on disk and I access it via Tailscale. Not paying any subscription and it doesn't live in a cloud.
Re: Ring cancels its partnership with Flock Safety after surveillance backlash
#29Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yep. Anyone got alternatives? I love the convenience of a video doorbell but I really really would like to not help the police or ICE or anyone else for that matter unless I decide it's a good idea.
you can use a company that is self hosted like Unifi and have complete control over your data, still have remote access, and not pay a subscription. “self hosted” scares people off but its literally a box you plug in and forget about. Pretty trivial. I dont understand why anyone chooses Ring when the costs of Unifi are so much better. The ring app also sucks imo and all their hardware is quite slow.
Honestly, that commercial convinced me to dump my Nest cameras because, eventually (if not already), they'll do the same.