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Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by breppp »

OutOfHere wrote: post #19
breppp wrote: post #18

A bit of an alarmist title. They would be negligent if they didn't. Hopefully they are able to anticipate protests and handle these without getting anyone shot. A good part of this is intelligence, and reading reddit is not a very invasive type of intelligence.

Huh. Why do they need to anticipate protests? Why can't they simply respect the right of the people to assemble and complain? The only thing that's alarmist is all of the actions performed by ICE.

Presumably being prepared for an incident will reduce the chance that due to surprise that incident will be handled incorrectly

If you ask me, all US law enforcement are very trigger happy, but I always assumed it is a two-way street as in, more people in US are armed and try to shoot law enforcements than in other countries

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by notarget137 »

breppp wrote: post #21
OutOfHere wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh. Why do they need to anticipate protests? Why can't they simply respect the right of the people to assemble and complain? The only thing that's alarmist is all of the actions performed by ICE.

Presumably being prepared for an incident will reduce the chance that due to surprise that incident will be handled incorrectly If you ask me, all US law enforcement are very trigger happy, but I always assumed it is a two-way street as in, more people in US are armed and try to shoot law enforcements than in other countries

And more US police officers die on duty due to more citizens willing to kill law enforcement officers.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by hulitu »

OutOfHere wrote: post #20
mindslight wrote: post #8

One of the mistaken beliefs of contemporary neofascists is that Pournelle's Iron Law only applies to bureaucracies. It would be much much less work for ICE to stop executing American citizens, stop abducting citizens and lawful immigrants, and stop keeping deportees in overcrowded and opaque concentration camps, and repair their own reputation by generally operating within the law like good faith public servants. But…

The best way to stop them is to cut off their money.

ROTFL Good luck

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by heavyset_go »

zamalek wrote: post #11

This is OSINT (open-source intelligence) and isn't spying by any technical standard because it's speech in a public venue, there isn't a way to raise hell like with e.g. Snowden. Spying would be going into their DMs without a warrant (which is probably happening). > Reddit post about “spreading awareness” as though it were the secret messages of al Qaeda Extreme waste of tax dollars, though. I guess this is an import…

Plenty of spying concerns people, places, actions, etc in public

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by [deleted] »

notarget137 wrote: post #22
breppp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably being prepared for an incident will reduce the chance that due to surprise that incident will be handled incorrectly If you ask me, all US law enforcement are very trigger happy, but I always assumed it is a two-way street as in, more people in US are armed and try to shoot law enforcements than in other countries

And more US police officers die on duty due to more citizens willing to kill law enforcement officers.

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Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by JCattheATM »

breppp wrote: post #21
OutOfHere wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Huh. Why do they need to anticipate protests? Why can't they simply respect the right of the people to assemble and complain? The only thing that's alarmist is all of the actions performed by ICE.

Presumably being prepared for an incident will reduce the chance that due to surprise that incident will be handled incorrectly If you ask me, all US law enforcement are very trigger happy, but I always assumed it is a two-way street as in, more people in US are armed and try to shoot law enforcements than in other countries

Compare innocent people shot by cops to cops shot by people at protests, and the numbers won't be remotely close.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by JCattheATM »

notarget137 wrote: post #22
breppp wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Presumably being prepared for an incident will reduce the chance that due to surprise that incident will be handled incorrectly If you ask me, all US law enforcement are very trigger happy, but I always assumed it is a two-way street as in, more people in US are armed and try to shoot law enforcements than in other countries

And more US police officers die on duty due to more citizens willing to kill law enforcement officers.

As a defensive measure due to cops being so trigger happy. Until the US relaxes it's cultist obsession about the 2A, that won't change.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by RickJWagner »

Reddit is a rich field of attack for all sorts of nefarious actors. Through the use of bot armies they can stir up trouble and encourage harmful behavior.

Nothing is easily tied to an actual human being, which is what differentiates it from free public speech. An entire discussion might appear to have thousands of people shouting for some political action, when it’s really one small team or even a single actor orchestrating it.

I think the government has been slow to respond, really. It’s a PsyOps battlefield.

Re: Homeland Security Spying on Reddit Users

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Post by nickthegreek »

OutOfHere wrote: post #25
hulitu wrote: post #23

Earlier quoted context omitted.

ROTFL Good luck

The Democrats are already working on it. They don't need luck for it. They already have representative power.

Feels like it’s once again a Lucy holding the football situation.
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