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The island where people forget to die

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Re: The island where people forget to die

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post #16

would anybody like to give a TL;DR synopsis?

1. Random anecdote.

2. Lots of exercise and healthy food and many friends even for very old people, on average results in a long life.

3. Joke about the guy from the anecdote, apparently all his American doctors died, while he is in his 90s on his little Greek island.

Re: The island where people forget to die

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I hate this kind of reporting. I read through the entire first page without the slightest clue as to what the article is actually about -- I'm pretty sure it's not all just for one guy's life story. But by that point I was tired of reading, and quit. Cut it out with the pathos and human interest, and get some of the real point in there quicker.

I was the complete opposite. I found the story compelling and interesting from the get go. Had they opened with stats from a study, I probably would have stopped there. The personal story hooked me.

Re: The island where people forget to die

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Stories like this are a little dangerous when taken at face value. Americans sometimes get diagnosed with cancer and then have spontaneous remission too. We don't know anything concrete about this guy's case. It's also not a good idea to say that a Mediterranean diet is ideal for anyone that doesn't have a Mediterranean ancestry. Greeks have been eating the same sorts of foods for a long time and are most likely more adapted to them than I would be. My hypothesis is that any society that doesn't drink sugary drinks, eats enough fat (olive oil, goat cheese in this case), doesn't often overeat, and gets plenty of exercise should have a healthy population.

Re: The island where people forget to die

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post #4

Really interesting to see this here on my first morning after beginning my segmented sleep experiment. I took a quarter pill of melatonin yesterday around 6pm and slept from 6:30 till 8:30, then quickly fell asleep again till 11:30. I then failed to fall asleep at 2:30am after a wonderful mellow productive night programming session, and had to skip the second sleep. During the morning I found, completely by chance, s…

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Re: The island where people forget to die

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I hate this kind of reporting. I read through the entire first page without the slightest clue as to what the article is actually about -- I'm pretty sure it's not all just for one guy's life story. But by that point I was tired of reading, and quit. Cut it out with the pathos and human interest, and get some of the real point in there quicker.

Cut it out with the pathos and human interest, and get some of the real point in there quicker.

Maybe you could slow down and read the part about how slowing down is good for you.

Re: The island where people forget to die

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In addition to what the article says, this particular island sure has a very healthy way of living overall, not necessarily in the medical sense.

Shops and offices open at noon, and people generally wake up late. They do stay up late at night.

In general, they don't follow a particular timetable, they go as they feel. They are mostly joyous and celebrating, with what we would call a "cafe culture" (only the are as likely to party with hard grappa-like liquors).

Their culture as relates to time is something that's unlike even nearby islands. This "on demand" thing? They are not for it.

Living in a wonderful land surrounded by wonderful, swimmable sea, doesn't hurt either.

Re: The island where people forget to die

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post #16

would anybody like to give a TL;DR synopsis?

If we assume the article is true, people for whom it would have most utility would be least likely to have patience to read it.

Precisely. What is the hurry with everyone?

We’re all gonna die. Let’s be cool to each other and try to enjoy the ride.

Oh, time for my nap!

Re: The island where people forget to die

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post #9

Arguing anything other than differences in levels of exercise/activity and calorie intake has a large mountain of evidence to overcome. The effects of those two are very large, the effects of everything else comparatively small per decades of animal and longitudinal human studies. Nonsense about antioxidants in the diet is exactly that: nonsense. The weight of evidence suggests that, if anything, ingested antioxidant…

Not to mention the fact, that the man could've been simply misdiagnosed. It was 60s after all...

I agree. I thought it was obvious from the first part of the article that the man was misdiagnosed.
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